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Colorist/Mod/Translator for DBM.
If you want to help our coloring project, message me on discord. [Zen Buu #4075] :-)
Link to my DeviantArt:
https://www.deviantart.com/zenbuuu4
Link to my twitch account, where I livestream sometimes:
https://www.twitch.tv/zen_buu
If you want to help our coloring project, message me on discord. [Zen Buu #4075] :-)
Link to my DeviantArt:
https://www.deviantart.com/zenbuuu4
Link to my twitch account, where I livestream sometimes:
https://www.twitch.tv/zen_buu
ZenBuu is part of the DBMultiverse team.
- Is a comment moderator.
- Translates in Aleman
- Works on fanfic dbm
- Works on fanfic hanasia
- Works on fanfic u14
- Works on fanfic u14b
- Works on fanfic u16
- Works on fanfic u19
- Works on fanfic u4
- For more information, go to the authors page.
I think everything has been said from both sides now. So please let this rest finally (hopefully) and focus on the actual page, if not on this page anymore, then please on the next page. Thank you.
DBMultiverse Special OAV - Broly Final War page 50
SOME FANSERVICE! :O
Some may feel like this is a bit out of place and I won't blame them. But hey, back in the Majin rebellion arc, we had Bra almost without a Bra. ^^
So I don't think this here is too bad. Even if her top was hanging on like 2 only threads at the end, it's probably more durable than the steel door from Gero's lab or Katchin.
Jokes aside, yes, this is an old drawing from Homola Gábor. We had a bit time pressure out of lack from artists who draw a cover for free. So if someone wants to volunteer, here is your chance! Write me here and I'll contact you per e-mail. Or you can write me on discord, just go to the official DBM Server. We can really need some help, since we have enough to do with coloring. We have many ideas for extra pages too!
Why did we pick this specific old drawing? Simply because it still kinda fits with the focus on Son Bra in this chapter where she fights Zangya and lacks control over her anger. Obviously she won't get injured like that in the fight. The alternative would've been some drawing of Zangya from Asura. But since the focus is clearly on Bra, we decided to use this. So I wonder if some of you would've preferred that? :)
The original idea for this cover was this:
Sun Wukong (DBM) and Kid Goku meditating on their Nyoi-bōs on Mount Paozu at sunset.
Yet, this is still a nice drawing from Gábor. :)
DBMultiverse Colors page 275
Some may feel like this is a bit out of place and I won't blame them. But hey, back in the Majin rebellion arc, we had Bra almost without a Bra. ^^
So I don't think this here is too bad. Even if her top was hanging on like 2 only threads at the end, it's probably more durable than the steel door from Gero's lab or Katchin.
Jokes aside, yes, this is an old drawing from Homola Gábor. We had a bit time pressure out of lack from artists who draw a cover for free. So if someone wants to volunteer, here is your chance! Write me here and I'll contact you per e-mail. Or you can write me on discord, just go to the official DBM Server. We can really need some help, since we have enough to do with coloring. We have many ideas for extra pages too!
Why did we pick this specific old drawing? Simply because it still kinda fits with the focus on Son Bra in this chapter where she fights Zangya and lacks control over her anger. Obviously she won't get injured like that in the fight. The alternative would've been some drawing of Zangya from Asura. But since the focus is clearly on Bra, we decided to use this. So I wonder if some of you would've preferred that? :)
The original idea for this cover was this:
Sun Wukong (DBM) and Kid Goku meditating on their Nyoi-bōs on Mount Paozu at sunset.
Yet, this is still a nice drawing from Gábor. :)
happywarrior99 was saying:
I think that it is suspicious that U7 Bulma and U7 Krillin saw U7 Gohan getting killed but somehow they (U7 Bulma and U7 Krillin) somehow survived to tell the tale to U7 Gast, unless U7 Bulma and U7 Krillin chose to abandon U7 Gohan or U7 Gohan is missing/was kidnapped.
Why do you always put the universe numbers in your comments? And why so many times in one comment? I'm pretty sure everyone knows which Gohan or Bulma you are talking about. Like U7 Gast is even more funny :D
how many other Gast are in the other universes? (At the tournament)
Majin Wasabi was saying:
ZenBuu was saying: "If you don't like it, don't read it" is true though. Why "suffer" through something that you clearly do not enjoy? It doesn't make any sense to me. That sounds even unhealthy af.
What do you even mean? I read it and watch ir because it only takes one clic, and DBM is one lf my favorite mangas, so I want to read everything related to it, thats why we read it. I also want to give my grain of opinion on something I find not so good so maybe next time can be better. I’m confident Sayazur can do a better job, and I hope he takes at least some opinions. Because if he is going to be a regular on the website I would love to continue reading all of the things that are publish.
What do you even mean? I read it and watch ir because it only takes one clic, and DBM is one lf my favorite mangas, so I want to read everything related to it, thats why we read it. I also want to give my grain of opinion on something I find not so good so maybe next time can be better. I’m confident Sayazur can do a better job, and I hope he takes at least some opinions. Because if he is going to be a regular on the website I would love to continue reading all of the things that are publish.
I mean what I said. What exactly is so hard to understand about that? Do I really need to explain this any further? :D
At least you left a respectful comment. The way you said it, sounds at least like you like this story to some degree. So you probably don't fall under this category.
Though another thing: please do not double post (Rule #9), you can edit your comments if you want to add something. You even edited the first comment, so please don't tell me you couldn't. Thank you.
Teleported_Bread was saying:
Regardless the actual quality of the story, people here need to chill
Yes, that's exactly the core of what I'm trying to say here the whole time.....
Damian Qualshy was saying:
ZenBuu was saying: Damian Qualshy was saying: Ah, Salagir the Demon Devil.
If they're gonna pull out Janemba now as the reason for failure I swear to god...
Now I'm interested. What exactly would happen then? Since you are swearing to god... I think that's kinda excessive tbh, but okaaay. Does Sayazur owe you anything? Because you seem to take this a bit too personal.
Why do you guys still take this comic so super seriously? It's just a fun story Sayazur wanted to create, even if it doesn't make a whole lot of sense. Working with the premise that is DBM Broly, because he is just such a broken OP guy, was in my opinion still not a good decision as we can see here everyday in the comments, but to each their own I guess. If Sayazur had fun creating it, why not? But the funniest part is, this isn't even canon to DBM. So even less reason to get upset over a fans work from DBM, that doesn't change the overall story at all.
Last but not least. If you guys dislike this comic and Sayazur's decisions that much, I really do have to wonder why you keep returning here, is it just to complain? If I dislike something that much, I'm not bothering with it anymore. That's honestly some weird behaviour in my opinion. And please don't tell me you started reading it, so now you have to finish it for some reason. Or that you hope it will get better in the end. You can always make the decision to not read this comic here. Nobody forces you.
"An expression". That's what my comment was. Very simple thing.
What even is your problem? Am I taking a dump on the comic? Am I harassing someone? I don't think I do? so could you get off my back as if I'm the hater #1 here?
"don't like it don't watch it" is such a stupid argument anyway.
If they're gonna pull out Janemba now as the reason for failure I swear to god...
Now I'm interested. What exactly would happen then? Since you are swearing to god... I think that's kinda excessive tbh, but okaaay. Does Sayazur owe you anything? Because you seem to take this a bit too personal.
Why do you guys still take this comic so super seriously? It's just a fun story Sayazur wanted to create, even if it doesn't make a whole lot of sense. Working with the premise that is DBM Broly, because he is just such a broken OP guy, was in my opinion still not a good decision as we can see here everyday in the comments, but to each their own I guess. If Sayazur had fun creating it, why not? But the funniest part is, this isn't even canon to DBM. So even less reason to get upset over a fans work from DBM, that doesn't change the overall story at all.
Last but not least. If you guys dislike this comic and Sayazur's decisions that much, I really do have to wonder why you keep returning here, is it just to complain? If I dislike something that much, I'm not bothering with it anymore. That's honestly some weird behaviour in my opinion. And please don't tell me you started reading it, so now you have to finish it for some reason. Or that you hope it will get better in the end. You can always make the decision to not read this comic here. Nobody forces you.
"An expression". That's what my comment was. Very simple thing.
What even is your problem? Am I taking a dump on the comic? Am I harassing someone? I don't think I do? so could you get off my back as if I'm the hater #1 here?
"don't like it don't watch it" is such a stupid argument anyway.
I clearly said several times what my problem here is. Sorry, but if you can't read my comments properly, then it's not my fault. And nice try, you have been rude to other people in the comments. You realise I can see all your comments? Also deleted ones? Maybe you forgot I'm a moderator. Also I was only referring to you in the first paragraph. You said that stuff about being the #1 hater first, not me. And I also do have the right to voice my opinion. Or am I not allowed to do that anymore, just because I do not agree with the tone some people have here? Again, you don't see all comments. I do. And I doubt you sit here 24/7 to refresh the page so you can see every single comment before it gets deleted. And if you do, you have a serious problem.
Geez, I do feel like a broken record at this point. I explained it so many times it's not even funny anymore and people try to twist my words or purposely ignore things I say like "You can criticise all you want, but it's not exactly what you say, it's how you say it." Some people here really try to cover up subtly insulting Sayazur, hell someone even openly said it's ok, or rather he should expect to get bullied for this "bullshit comic". People visit external websites to shit on his work. You really have to get out of your way for that. That's ok for you? Really?? If I don't reply to someone specifically, I talk to the vast majority here. If you feel attacked by that, then maybe you should ask yourself why that is.
"If you don't like it, don't read it" is true though. Why "suffer" through something that you clearly do not enjoy? It doesn't make any sense to me. That sounds even unhealthy af.
And to end this now. Even if it's only a few people, some do seem to enjoy it. So please stop generalizing that everyone has to hate what's going on here. I personally even said I'm not really a fan of it, but that gets funnily ignored. And I've read the full story already... just saiyan. ;) 1 Replie(s)
Damian Qualshy was saying:
Ah, Salagir the Demon Devil.
If they're gonna pull out Janemba now as the reason for failure I swear to god...
If they're gonna pull out Janemba now as the reason for failure I swear to god...
Now I'm interested. What exactly would happen then? Since you are swearing to god... I think that's kinda excessive tbh, but okaaay. Does Sayazur owe you anything? Because you seem to take this a bit too personal.
Why do you guys still take this comic so super seriously? It's just a fun story Sayazur wanted to create, even if it doesn't make a whole lot of sense. Working with the premise that is DBM Broly, because he is just such a broken OP guy, was in my opinion still not a good decision as we can see here everyday in the comments, but to each their own I guess. If Sayazur had fun creating it, why not? But the funniest part is, this isn't even canon to DBM. So even less reason to get upset over a fans work from DBM, that doesn't change the overall story at all.
Last but not least. If you guys dislike this comic and Sayazur's decisions that much, I really do have to wonder why you keep returning here, is it just to complain? If I dislike something that much, I'm not bothering with it anymore. That's honestly some weird behaviour in my opinion. And please don't tell me you started reading it, so now you have to finish it for some reason. Or that you hope it will get better in the end. You can always make the decision to not read this comic here. Nobody forces you. 5 Replie(s)
I'll say this one last time now. You guys need to seriously calm down a bit. You always have the option to not read this comic here. Nobody forces you to "suffer" through something that you don't enjoy.
Please discuss respectfully here, but do not get insulting. Thank you.
You have an interesting username, I genuinely wonder how you came up with it? ;) 1 Replie(s)
DBMultiverse Special OAV - Broly Final War page 49
Please discuss respectfully here, but do not get insulting. Thank you.
Zen Kuu was saying:
Broly had to win, I understand that. I think we all do. A better way to handle it would have been for Gogeta to actually dominate Broly at first in Ssj2, completely humiliating him, while Buu restrained Broly or at least contributed in some way. Then, just as Gogeta already humiliating broly enough for killing everyone, and knowing broly will eventually grow stronger, change to Ssj3 and as he was about to deliver a full charged decisive attack, he could have defused, similar to how Vegito did against Zamasu. At that moment, Broly, realizing he was seconds away from death, could have unleashed a massive explosion—something like Vegeta’s self-destruction against Majin Buu—trying to take everyone out with him. That explosion could shatter the barrier, kill Mega Buu, Goku, and Vegeta, leaving Broly as the sole survivor, leaving him unconscious and frozen in the vacuum of space, floating aimlessly.
This way, Broly still wins, but the other characters can still shine. It’s also in character for them to want to humiliate Broly while they’re in SSJ2, because they know they still have SSJ3 to finish him off, like Vegito did.
BUT THIS WAS JUST LAZY WRITTING
This way, Broly still wins, but the other characters can still shine. It’s also in character for them to want to humiliate Broly while they’re in SSJ2, because they know they still have SSJ3 to finish him off, like Vegito did.
BUT THIS WAS JUST LAZY WRITTING
You have an interesting username, I genuinely wonder how you came up with it? ;) 1 Replie(s)
Shabby was saying:
ZenBuu was saying: Shabby was saying: seems a little wild, he was so drained he could barely move, but had enough power to deal real blow to someone who just stole his power?
That was obviously sandbagging from Gast. Isn't it clear already he always holds back? :)
I think you're being cheeky, because it makes no sense to let them get more and more powerful, especially when his squire is potentially in danger.
That was obviously sandbagging from Gast. Isn't it clear already he always holds back? :)
I think you're being cheeky, because it makes no sense to let them get more and more powerful, especially when his squire is potentially in danger.
Then please explain to me, why Gast let's himself getting beat up by Piccolo Daimao in the tournament (on purpose!), when his wish is so important to him? Why does he hold back all the time? He even planned to hold back against Son Bra... He wants a challenge, even if the stakes are high. His own words, not mine.
Not to mention he killed Cold in his original form, 10 years ago, who should be around #16 level. He has to be much stronger than that by now and I doubt these androids are stronger than #16. And then there is still Piccolo who just brushed Gero's absorption off like it was nothing. 1 Replie(s)
Shabby was saying:
seems a little wild, he was so drained he could barely move, but had enough power to deal real blow to someone who just stole his power?
That was obviously sandbagging from Gast. Isn't it clear already he always holds back? :) 2 Replie(s)
Somit beginnt Buu's wahres Abenteuer! Im neuen Jahr starten wir durch! :)
Fanfic u4, chapter 6
Goten True Sayian was saying:
Love how both Gogeta and Gotenks are in Ssj 3 and Color Pages On the Preview
Totally not a coincidence, huh? ^^
SSJ Storm was saying:
On a previous page someone mentioned Vegeta went Super Saiyan vs the Ginyu Squad in this universe but I don't remember that and couldn't find the chapter. Was it in the novelization? If not, what chapter was it?
It was chapter 41, page 935 to be precise. :)
YellNinja1600 was saying:
Ironic this is the year of 772. This is same year of Majin Buu Saga. So Gero has ruled over Earth for 7 years and now you know who is about to come to the planet and look for energy for Majin Buu. Gas is about to experience his own Android Saga and Majin Buu Saga back to back.
It's 2 years before the Buu Saga. (Age 774)
GOHEEZY was saying:
瘦布欧 was saying: If Gohan survive the Androids attack in this universe, he should be attending the tournament along with Gast in hope of winning the right to use Dragonballs, sadly he is not.
Yamcha is dead in his infamous dead scene, and Vegeta is not living on earth, so we won't see any version of Trunk that we know.
Maybe we get to see Yagirobe or Master Roshi as story-telling-NPC.
Possibly but Gohan might not have the motivation to be a fighter, especially after losing his family and friends. I do hope we get to see my guy Gohan
Yamcha is dead in his infamous dead scene, and Vegeta is not living on earth, so we won't see any version of Trunk that we know.
Maybe we get to see Yagirobe or Master Roshi as story-telling-NPC.
Possibly but Gohan might not have the motivation to be a fighter, especially after losing his family and friends. I do hope we get to see my guy Gohan
Since this isn't the first time you're doing this... Please do not double post (Rule #9)! You can edit your comment for some time after you send it, no need to post another one right after you left the first.
Gast was saying:
Woher kennt man denn Thorn?
Mir sagt der Charakter nichts.
Mir sagt der Charakter nichts.
Page 932 & page 933 zum Beispiel. ^^
Fun fact: dieses Special passiert 10 Jahre nach dem letzten U7 Special, sowohl in-universe, als auch irl. :D 2 Replie(s)
MajinPower was saying:
Guys if 10 years have passed from the Namek Saga and the new 19 and 20 arrived…all the Z fighters are so dead.
A very grim welcome awaits
A very grim welcome awaits
Funny enough the last Gast special was also 10 years ago! ^^ 1 Replie(s)
PrinceOfTheHood was saying:
Eine Woche Hiatus ... ... ... ... ... Reallife Probleme/Herausforderungen ?
Und nun das von mir bereits erwartete Special. ^.^ ich meine ich kann ja verstehen, dass man eine der spannendsten Begegnungen in der Story nicht zu leicht und schnell abschliessen möchte. ;-)
Und nun das von mir bereits erwartete Special. ^.^ ich meine ich kann ja verstehen, dass man eine der spannendsten Begegnungen in der Story nicht zu leicht und schnell abschliessen möchte. ;-)
So lange wie du schon dabei bist, muss man sich schon fragen was da los ist, dass du dich scheinbar immer noch über gelegentliche Minicomics bzw. wie üblich Specials wunderst. Das ist alles nichts neues bei DBM. Zumal es auch in der News stand, aber die liest ja irgendwie keiner. Wir hatten gerade erst ein Kapitel, welches mit 36 Seiten sogar Überlänge zu den sonstigen Kapiteln hatte.
Ich glaube Asura hat manche von euch ein wenig zu sehr verwöhnt. ;P 1 Replie(s)
Infernape2244 was saying:
iron leaf sagte: Gast im Hawaihemd und Thorn ist auch dabei. Ja klasse. Kann erwarten was kommt. So viele Theorien aus vergangenen Kommentarbereichen werden endlich Früchte tragen oder für immer vernachlässigt, lol. Bin gespannt.
Infernape2244 sagte: Ok meine Prediction ist dass wir den Fight gegen Cell hier bekommen könnten.
Ich hab zu dem eine Frage an die Mods, aber ich weiß nicht ob sie im dazugehörigen Comic gelesen wird. Ist schon bekannt wann es mit dem Blancoverse Comic weitergeht?Leider kann ich keine neuen Informationen anbieten. Es besteht die alte Neuigkeit. Frorenst hat Blancoverse auf unbestimmte Zeit pausiert. Wir müssen uns einfach in Geduld üben.
Ok das ist verständlich.
Infernape2244 sagte: Ok meine Prediction ist dass wir den Fight gegen Cell hier bekommen könnten.
Ich hab zu dem eine Frage an die Mods, aber ich weiß nicht ob sie im dazugehörigen Comic gelesen wird. Ist schon bekannt wann es mit dem Blancoverse Comic weitergeht?Leider kann ich keine neuen Informationen anbieten. Es besteht die alte Neuigkeit. Frorenst hat Blancoverse auf unbestimmte Zeit pausiert. Wir müssen uns einfach in Geduld üben.
Ok das ist verständlich.
Ich kann dazu was sagen. Habe Frorenst vor circa einem Monat nochmal diesbezüglich gefragt... seine Antwort war, dass er als er den Comic angefangen hat, wohl noch sehr viel Freizeit hatte, die er nun nicht mehr zu haben scheint. So weit ich das dann verstanden habe, wird er den Comic wohl nie beenden, höchstens in einem Novel Format. Übrigens hättest du das auch unter der letzten Blancoverse Seite schreiben können, ich checke dort auch öfters mal die Kommentare. Weil hier ist das off topic...
kari was saying:
Endlich, Bro dass chapter hat so lange gedauert sicher seid 6 Tagen endlich wieder ein neues Upload.
Dir ist aber schon bewusst, warum das so ist? Die Hauptstory zeichnet sich nicht von allein, Asura braucht Zeit um solch eine Qualität zu produzieren.
Ausserdem kamen 2 Minicomics, wie es auch in der News stand (Die irgendwie nie jemand richtig liest...). 1 Replie(s)
Ryu was saying:
Es geht tatsächlich weiter, danke Goten-kun
Die Story ist tatsächlich bald vorbei. Ein paar Seiten kommen aber noch. 1 Replie(s)
Says the guy who was a fatass himself just some seconds ago. :D
So what do we call this Buu? Unlike Ultra Buu or Z Buu, how we called him in the last U20 special, this one has King Cold, Raditz, Bojack AND Uub on top, though he is missing Goku and Vegeta, which is a huge boost. I'd wager he's probably equal to Broly now, definitely not stronger. 3 Replie(s)
DBMultiverse Special OAV - Broly Final War page 39
So what do we call this Buu? Unlike Ultra Buu or Z Buu, how we called him in the last U20 special, this one has King Cold, Raditz, Bojack AND Uub on top, though he is missing Goku and Vegeta, which is a huge boost. I'd wager he's probably equal to Broly now, definitely not stronger. 3 Replie(s)
Please don't forget we got a second minicomic! The next special starts at Wednesday.
https://www.dragonball-multiverse.com/en/strip-132.html
DB Multiverse page 2414
https://www.dragonball-multiverse.com/en/strip-132.html
Nette Ausrede, die Asura hier genutzt hat um Bul... ich meine natürlich Trunks... unter der Dusche zu zeichnen. ;P
Minicomic page 132
I see what you did there, Asura! This whole explanation about U9 was just an excuse to draw Bul... I mean Trunks under the shower! XD
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Minicomic page 132
Also ganz beendet ist diese Story noch nicht. Ein paar Seiten kommen noch. ^^
Namekseijin Densetsu page 555
Ryuzaki_Doragon was saying:
Kann's sein, dass gestern keine neue Seite kam?
Es kam dieser Minicomic von Asura, nach einem weiteren Minicomic geht es los mit dem Gast Special!
https://www.dragonball-multiverse.com/de/strip-131.html
Teleported_Bread was saying:
Super Gojita 3 was saying: No more dbs talk plz
I asked why. That's not very fair
I asked why. That's not very fair
Oh, c'mon. You're not new to this website, you should know better that DBS has no place here (Rule #2). When it's in the comment section from like Blancoverse, it's a different story of course. But this comic here, as well as every other comic on this website, ignores Dragon Ball Super (which is a very good thing if you ask me). When we say, please no more DBS talk, which is actually sad, that we have to give a reminder about this so often, then you shouldn't ask why, there is a reason for this... also, this breaks rule #1.
Dandolos was saying:
Korrigiert mich bitte ich mich irre. Wenn Goku und Vegeta durch die Tanzfusion oder die Potaras fusionieren, dann sollte das ja um Längen reichen um Broly so zu klatschen wie Vegetto im Turnier. Broly ist da ja "jünger" und vor dem Vegetto Kampf, somit deutlich schwächer und er kommt ja auch so eingefroren zu uns.
Das ist doch die Vorgeschichte von dem Broly den wir im Turnier gesehen haben?
Wenn unsere Gang das so schafft und somit die Hölle und alle Beteiligten "überleben" (ja sind tot, aber nicht ausgelöscht wie Nappa, wie ich das zumindest verstehe) , dann gibt es vielleicht ein Folgespecial wie Broly wieder zurück ist und denen erneut die Hölle heiß macht. Mittlerweile kann er ja mit SSJ2 Vegetto mithalten, also ist SSJ3 Vegettos Stärke nicht mehr so weit für ihn entfernt. 1-2 Powerups und fertig.
Edit. Die "Eisgrenze" der Dimensionen scheint ja zu brechen. So könnte er natürlich auch gefunden werden. In einem kaputten leeren Universum wo nur er eingefroren (lebend) treibt.
Das ist doch die Vorgeschichte von dem Broly den wir im Turnier gesehen haben?
Wenn unsere Gang das so schafft und somit die Hölle und alle Beteiligten "überleben" (ja sind tot, aber nicht ausgelöscht wie Nappa, wie ich das zumindest verstehe) , dann gibt es vielleicht ein Folgespecial wie Broly wieder zurück ist und denen erneut die Hölle heiß macht. Mittlerweile kann er ja mit SSJ2 Vegetto mithalten, also ist SSJ3 Vegettos Stärke nicht mehr so weit für ihn entfernt. 1-2 Powerups und fertig.
Edit. Die "Eisgrenze" der Dimensionen scheint ja zu brechen. So könnte er natürlich auch gefunden werden. In einem kaputten leeren Universum wo nur er eingefroren (lebend) treibt.
Ich will nicht zuviel verraten, aber erstmal ist dieser Comic nicht von Salagir als Kanon zu DBM erklärt worden.
Allerdings hast du recht, dieser Comic findet 7 Jahre vor dem DBM Turnier statt.
youcef was saying:
ZenBuu was saying: soulcharm was saying: Vegeta was being absorbed in the last page???
That was Gotenks.
I do have to say that these pages would look better without colors. Because the way it looks now, it just seems unfinished. Sorry, but the shading really doesn't make much sense and this bothers me extremely as a colorist myself.
Can't agree more, the quality of story and art is too poor to be exposed to a large audience.
Especially to us dB nerds, this feels like doodles from when I was 11.
Shocked picachu face when bullying starts
That was Gotenks.
I do have to say that these pages would look better without colors. Because the way it looks now, it just seems unfinished. Sorry, but the shading really doesn't make much sense and this bothers me extremely as a colorist myself.
Can't agree more, the quality of story and art is too poor to be exposed to a large audience.
Especially to us dB nerds, this feels like doodles from when I was 11.
Shocked picachu face when bullying starts
Now that is a bit rude.
I wasn't saying the art itself is trash and I already expressed several times that this whole story is a bit unnecessary in my mind, but I respect Sayazur as an author/artist and that's not my point.
My concern here was that the coloring makes these pages worse and not really better in my opinion. I respect the effort, but instead of inconsistently throwing out half colored pages like these, it should've been all in black and white. It's just obvious that they were in a rush to finish this quickly. Sadly I wasn't asked to color something for this, I could've spiced up some pages for sure. :)
Daiko was saying:
Squidward took over Cooler in panel 3. You can tell by the nose. Secret lore?
That is King Cold, Cooler is dead already. 3 Replie(s)
soulcharm was saying:
Vegeta was being absorbed in the last page???
That was Gotenks.
I do have to say that these pages would look better without colors. Because the way it looks now, it just seems unfinished. Sorry, but the shading really doesn't make much sense and this bothers me extremely as a colorist myself. 1 Replie(s)
SuperSaiyan4Vegetto was saying:
So is this series skipping all of the specials? I know that some of them are already written in color and that's fine to skip those but what about the ones in black and white?
Yes, we don't include any specials here. If it's not obvious enough... you basically answered it yourself already.
First, some specials are already colored and in a different style than ours. That's a break in style we don't want to have. Second, I personally don't like some specials, so I frankly also don't want to color it. Which brings me to the last point... time management. It took us a decade to color most of the main story, if we include specials, then you can easily double that again.
I worked a bit on the Coola special by Asura when it came out, but I never released those pages to the public.
debu was saying:
ZenBuu sagte:
Cell ist definitiv tot.
Naja, ist das wirklich so definitiv? Ich meine es wirkt jetzt nicht wie die Art Special, wo er groß eine Rolle spielen würde, also kann schon sein, dass es das für ihn gewesen ist. Aber streng genommen war das was man gesehen jetzt eigentlich nicht unbedingt etwas, wovon Cell sich nicht regenerieren könnte.
Cell ist definitiv tot.
Naja, ist das wirklich so definitiv? Ich meine es wirkt jetzt nicht wie die Art Special, wo er groß eine Rolle spielen würde, also kann schon sein, dass es das für ihn gewesen ist. Aber streng genommen war das was man gesehen jetzt eigentlich nicht unbedingt etwas, wovon Cell sich nicht regenerieren könnte.
Cell ist zu 100% tot. Dieser Cell hier hat weder trainiert um seinen Nukleus im Körper wandern zu lassen, noch um den Nukleus zu verstärken. Mal ganz davon abgesehen, dass der Author Sayazur bereits bestätigt hat, das Cell tot ist.
Ich finde es auch eine absolute Verschwendung, warum Cell am Beginn des Kampfes sofort off screen abgefertigt wurde, aber so ist es nun mal. Die Story hat allgemein etwas fragwürde Richtungen eingeschlagen. Ich muss aber sagen, nachdem ich das Ende dieser Story am Stück lesen konnte, gefällt mir das zweite Kapitel weitaus besser. Es macht allerdings nur nicht viel Sinn, wieso das hier Plan B und nicht Plan A war. Cell wäre schon ein nicer Boost für Buu gewesen.
Gorgodo was saying:
Dandolos sagte: Also Buu ist ja stark, aber ein Raditz oder Freezer sind ja mittlerweile nur kleine Fliegen was Stärke angeht. Mal schauen was der Plan ist.
Mit der höchsten Wahrscheinlichkeit werden Goku und Vegeta fusionieren, Buu wird dann zum intelligenten Buuhan (hoffentlich hat Cell in irgendeiner Weise überlebt) und dann ist es 2 v 1.
Goku und Vegeta wissen, dass Gogeta/Vegetto Base >>>> SSJ3 ist. Aber wenn dieser Broly ja auch schon jener ist, der sich aus dem Zentrum der Galaxie befreien konnte, wird es ja keiner schaffen....
Mit der höchsten Wahrscheinlichkeit werden Goku und Vegeta fusionieren, Buu wird dann zum intelligenten Buuhan (hoffentlich hat Cell in irgendeiner Weise überlebt) und dann ist es 2 v 1.
Goku und Vegeta wissen, dass Gogeta/Vegetto Base >>>> SSJ3 ist. Aber wenn dieser Broly ja auch schon jener ist, der sich aus dem Zentrum der Galaxie befreien konnte, wird es ja keiner schaffen....
Cell ist definitiv tot.
Genau wie Cooler, Freezer und Nappa. 1 Replie(s)
Lucas was saying:
But XXI doesn't seem to be particularly powerful as a fighter, else he wouldn't have resorted to the remote to take a weakened version of 18 out.
If XXI doesn't possess much raw power, I'm curious how you explain page 993 then and Buu's reaction to it... :D
It was stated several times now that XXI doesn't like to take any risks. Destroying a piece of Buu like this isn't a feat that everyone can pull off. 2 Replie(s)
Moe2231 was saying:
ZenBuu was saying: JasonPhoenix was saying: Sure's been a while since the last chapter... While I don't mind waiting per se, I do get worried the translation might be axed with us being none the wiser...
SuperSaiyan4Vegetto was saying: So is there any word on continuation of the Novel? Or any possible timeline? Like 6 months from now? Or maybe 2025?
Again if you're too busy that's fine I just would prefer to know what to expect.
Little bit late reply:
It is not depending on any translation. It's the writer Arctika that has to continue writing the novel. I can ask him how things are looking, but I wouldn't have much hope that it continues very soon.
Asking, do you know if the novels will be continued for powerscaling sake. For the uub and goku fight and goku vs vegeta fight.
SuperSaiyan4Vegetto was saying: So is there any word on continuation of the Novel? Or any possible timeline? Like 6 months from now? Or maybe 2025?
Again if you're too busy that's fine I just would prefer to know what to expect.
Little bit late reply:
It is not depending on any translation. It's the writer Arctika that has to continue writing the novel. I can ask him how things are looking, but I wouldn't have much hope that it continues very soon.
Asking, do you know if the novels will be continued for powerscaling sake. For the uub and goku fight and goku vs vegeta fight.
It will be continued, that's for sure. Just be patient please. Afaik Arctika has already written Cell vs Vegeta.
PrimeFighter was saying:
ZenBuu was saying: Shabby was saying: ZenBuu was saying: Can't wait for all the "this plan B is so stupid" comments again... ;P
Respectfully Zen, when you posts comments like this you sound like you're dunking on all criticism, not just the generic/hateful stuff
I have plenty of criticism, but I also know Sayazur is human, and Asura/Salagir used to be--before powering up, and there's no need to insult any of them in their works.
Reread all of the comments on this comic here so far. If I would be against general (constructive) criticism, like some people accuse me here (including you now), I just would've deleted all of those comments, right? But I won't make it a secret that the behaviour of some people still annoys me and I have the right to say that too, respectfully... maybe sometimes in a pretty sarcastic manner, admittedly. ;P yet again, you can't see all the deleted comments here. There was some very rude stuff on here by some people.
To the second part of your comment, that's exactly what I'm saying here for years already.
Constructive criticism = No problem.
Insulting the authors/just being rude in general = A big problem.
I honestly don't know anymore how to make this more clear at this point.
There wasn't a need to make a comment like that tho tbh. All you have to do is just delete the comment or ban the commenter. Also you're part of the DBM, so you're held at a higher standard than all of us, too.
Respectfully Zen, when you posts comments like this you sound like you're dunking on all criticism, not just the generic/hateful stuff
I have plenty of criticism, but I also know Sayazur is human, and Asura/Salagir used to be--before powering up, and there's no need to insult any of them in their works.
Reread all of the comments on this comic here so far. If I would be against general (constructive) criticism, like some people accuse me here (including you now), I just would've deleted all of those comments, right? But I won't make it a secret that the behaviour of some people still annoys me and I have the right to say that too, respectfully... maybe sometimes in a pretty sarcastic manner, admittedly. ;P yet again, you can't see all the deleted comments here. There was some very rude stuff on here by some people.
To the second part of your comment, that's exactly what I'm saying here for years already.
Constructive criticism = No problem.
Insulting the authors/just being rude in general = A big problem.
I honestly don't know anymore how to make this more clear at this point.
There wasn't a need to make a comment like that tho tbh. All you have to do is just delete the comment or ban the commenter. Also you're part of the DBM, so you're held at a higher standard than all of us, too.
There also wasn't a need for people to insult the author/artist, yet here we are.
Thanks for telling me how to moderate, I'm pretty sure I did exactly that. :)
I'm part of the DBM team and I do have some more privileges, yes. But I wouldn't consider myself as something better than other readers here like you say. At the end of the day, I'm also still just a normal fan/reader from DBM and I have the right to voice my opinion here too, when I don't insult anybody. If anybody got triggered by my initial comment on this page, then maybe they should think twice why exactly that could be the case... 1 Replie(s)
Shabby was saying:
ZenBuu was saying: Can't wait for all the "this plan B is so stupid" comments again... ;P
Respectfully Zen, when you posts comments like this you sound like you're dunking on all criticism, not just the generic/hateful stuff
I have plenty of criticism, but I also know Sayazur is human, and Asura/Salagir used to be--before powering up, and there's no need to insult any of them in their works.
Respectfully Zen, when you posts comments like this you sound like you're dunking on all criticism, not just the generic/hateful stuff
I have plenty of criticism, but I also know Sayazur is human, and Asura/Salagir used to be--before powering up, and there's no need to insult any of them in their works.
Reread all of the comments on this comic here so far. If I would be against general (constructive) criticism, like some people accuse me here (including you now), I just would've deleted all of those comments, right? Hell, I even said myself I'm not a big fan of this story!
But I won't make it a secret that the behaviour of some people still annoys me and I have the right to say that too, respectfully... maybe sometimes in a pretty sarcastic manner, admittedly. ;P yet again, you can't see all the deleted comments here. There was some very rude stuff on here by some people.
To the second part of your comment, that's exactly what I'm saying here for years already.
Constructive criticism = No problem.
Insulting the authors/just being rude in general = A big problem.
I honestly don't know anymore how to make this more clear at this point. 1 Replie(s)
Daiko was saying:
Don't be bitter that people point out flaws in a story or don't like something. Free or not doesn't protect something from being judged in entertainment value. That's the whole point of a comment section.
Thanks for explaining that to me, I didn't knew that at all! Jokes aside...
Question: can you see all the comments that people left here? No?...
Point is: How many times do we have to clarify, that constructive criticism is not the same, as mindlessly bashing this comic? Which is, what several people were doing here. Some people here are very rude. Going to external websites outside of DBM, just to hate on the authors work (Sayazur) is surely not a normal thing to do.
Of course you can disagree with the authors decisions/the overall plot, but don't be a freaking asshole about it! Is this concept really that hard to grasp for some people here?
Can't wait for all the "this plan B is so stupid" comments again... ;P
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DBMultiverse Special OAV - Broly Final War page 36
Moe2231 was saying:
What you wanna say.
Read the rules underneath before you post
ZenBuu was saying: DrewSaga was saying: People will say that Yamcha is dumb for forfeiting but let's face it. He wasn't gonna get far anyways. Of course winning the first round would have broken a streak in his record.
That raises the question... does Yamcha also have an emergency shut down per remote control like #18 does? Because he would've fought against XXI next round.
Even if he didn’t have a emergency shut off. XXI’s power can destroy buu or he can summon janemba who destroys yamcha
Read the rules underneath before you post
ZenBuu was saying: DrewSaga was saying: People will say that Yamcha is dumb for forfeiting but let's face it. He wasn't gonna get far anyways. Of course winning the first round would have broken a streak in his record.
That raises the question... does Yamcha also have an emergency shut down per remote control like #18 does? Because he would've fought against XXI next round.
Even if he didn’t have a emergency shut off. XXI’s power can destroy buu or he can summon janemba who destroys yamcha
That's clearly not how XXI operates in his fights. He usually searches for the easiest way to defeat his opponents, without taking too much risk. Gast was the only exception so far, yet Janemba is still the perfect opponent for him. It all makes sense from what we've seen from XXI's character so far. By your logic XXI could've also just blasted #18 like he did with Buu in his apartment, or summoned Janemba against her.
DrewSaga was saying:
People will say that Yamcha is dumb for forfeiting but let's face it. He wasn't gonna get far anyways. Of course winning the first round would have broken a streak in his record.
That raises the question... does Yamcha also have an emergency shut down per remote control like #18 does? Because he would've fought against XXI next round. 1 Replie(s)
I just decided we release a new chapter at the 1st of each month now.
Chapter 7 will be released on Friday.
Have fun reading! :-D
Fanfic u4, chapter 6
Chapter 7 will be released on Friday.
Have fun reading! :-D
Fate was saying:
Can't wait for more of the chapters
Skoui was saying:
Meowcate disait : C'est rare, mais j'ai un soucis avec la couleur : pourquoi ces éclairs derrière Yamcha en case 5 ?
Dans l'original, j'interprétais son dialogue pour dire, "Les choses sont ainsi, tu fais quoi ?"
Ici, ça donne un aspect menaçant, presque un ultimatum. "Tu fais comme je dis où tu périras".
C'est un petit défaut (?) que j'ai remarqué : il arrive assez fréquemment qu'il y ait un fond soudainement différent sur une case montrant un personnage en gros plan. C'est sans doute un effet de style, mais j'avoue que parfois ça rend le tout légèrement perturbant, comme ce que tu soulignes ici.
Dans l'original, j'interprétais son dialogue pour dire, "Les choses sont ainsi, tu fais quoi ?"
Ici, ça donne un aspect menaçant, presque un ultimatum. "Tu fais comme je dis où tu périras".
C'est un petit défaut (?) que j'ai remarqué : il arrive assez fréquemment qu'il y ait un fond soudainement différent sur une case montrant un personnage en gros plan. C'est sans doute un effet de style, mais j'avoue que parfois ça rend le tout légèrement perturbant, comme ce que tu soulignes ici.
Défaut? Vous préférez un fond vierge? Honnêtement, je ne comprends pas le problème. Une BD en couleur n'a pas de fond complètement vierge... 1 Replie(s)
Shanks was saying:
Danke und wieder ein Genuss diesen Roman zu lesen. Ich finde das klasse, wie viele Gedanken sich gemacht wurden sind um boo soviel tiefe zu geben. Einfach klasse
Das freut mich sehr zu lesen! Seid gespannt für mehr, bald geht diese Story hier richtig in die Tiefe!
Bald geht auch der DBM Novel weiter. Wir haben ganze 10 Kapitel aufzuholen! :)
SevenPuppet was saying:
ZenBuu was saying: You know, translating that much text takes a lot of time... and we do this in our free time. If you want, you can gladly help us, instead of doubting our decisions here... ;)
Didn't know that was an option!
Didn't know that was an option!
That is if you speak french and can translate such a long text to english. Which consumes a lot of time. If you are seriously willing to help, I can send you an e-mail.
We have 11 chapters left to translate.
SevenPuppet was saying:
Why he missing a finger, or have I been bamboozled and he always had 4 fingers? HOW HAVE I NEVER NOTICED THIS?!
Namekians always had just 4 fingers. That's nothing new. 3 Replie(s)
DestroyerOfVegetards was saying:
Stevethebarbarian was saying: Gast Greatness was saying: So the people who assumed Gast was using Zen Buu's Dark World Lightning Magic Technique turned out to be correct...tough break, Janemba.
As for his summoner:
300 Pages Earlier https://www.dragonball-multiverse.com/en/page-2110.html
XII: "The techniques Buu used to defeat Gast. Give them to me."
Dark Shenron: "Those are way beyond my abilities. Such a shame...It looks like it's over for you."
You know, this kinda reveals that in terms of actual talent, Buu and Gast are both categorically on a different level from XXI. XXI gets his cheat abilities from a dragon who’s “way below” being capable of casting Buu’s magic, the same magic that Gast copied after having it used on him once.
XXI, “devourer of worlds,” would be no match for any of the top-tiers here except for his extensive planning and preparation. It’s an admirable skillset to have, but it’s proof that if push comes to shove, he can’t hang.
Obviously.
He won against Vegito and Buu by taking advantage of the 30 seconds rule. But he didn't (or couldn't) hurt neither of them. He likely won't survive a fight to the death with no time-out rule if he is not given a chance to prepare. But he's the type of villain that always prepares.
As for his summoner:
300 Pages Earlier https://www.dragonball-multiverse.com/en/page-2110.html
XII: "The techniques Buu used to defeat Gast. Give them to me."
Dark Shenron: "Those are way beyond my abilities. Such a shame...It looks like it's over for you."
You know, this kinda reveals that in terms of actual talent, Buu and Gast are both categorically on a different level from XXI. XXI gets his cheat abilities from a dragon who’s “way below” being capable of casting Buu’s magic, the same magic that Gast copied after having it used on him once.
XXI, “devourer of worlds,” would be no match for any of the top-tiers here except for his extensive planning and preparation. It’s an admirable skillset to have, but it’s proof that if push comes to shove, he can’t hang.
Obviously.
He won against Vegito and Buu by taking advantage of the 30 seconds rule. But he didn't (or couldn't) hurt neither of them. He likely won't survive a fight to the death with no time-out rule if he is not given a chance to prepare. But he's the type of villain that always prepares.
Stevethebarbarian was saying:
DestroyerOfVegetards was saying:
Obviously.
He won against Vegito and Buu by taking advantage of the 30 seconds rule. But he didn't (or couldn't) hurt neither of them. He likely won't survive a fight to the death with no time-out rule if he is not given a chance to prepare. But he's the type of villain that always prepares.
It’s obvious that he’s no match in terms of raw power, but what I mean is in magic as well, his actual talent is completely mediocre. He’s probably no better than Babidi, or perhaps worse. His only advantage is caution and a wish-granting dragon.
Obviously.
He won against Vegito and Buu by taking advantage of the 30 seconds rule. But he didn't (or couldn't) hurt neither of them. He likely won't survive a fight to the death with no time-out rule if he is not given a chance to prepare. But he's the type of villain that always prepares.
It’s obvious that he’s no match in terms of raw power, but what I mean is in magic as well, his actual talent is completely mediocre. He’s probably no better than Babidi, or perhaps worse. His only advantage is caution and a wish-granting dragon.
You guys should not forget, that XXI does possess raw power for sure, otherwise he wouldn't have been able to pull off the Majin Punisher on Zen Buu, when the latter visited his apartment at night. He completely destroyed that piece of Buu, to the very last atom. That's definitely not an easy feat, that everybody can pull off... Even Buu himself was surprised at that:
Page 993.
Even Goku and Vegeta said on page 2049, that they apparently need to be at a certain level, to replicate this technique.
So XXI also has raw power, just decides to not use it for some reason.
zero logic was saying:
Wait, how/when did Gast learn the technique that destroys Buu? He was dead when they used it, and the other time it was used it was by Vegeto/Bra far, far away in outer space. He hasn't seen it in the tournament. Hipe this was written properly and he somehow learned it before or something
Zen Buu showed everyone what happened in the Majin rebellion and Son Bra used the technique on Fat Buu (page 1733). That was apparently enough for Gast to replicate it. Also, Gast should be able to read minds. Or... He did know how to do it before, since he also beat Buu in his universe.
Side fact: check the other languages of this page, other than english or french! The second panel has more dark lightning bolts than here, because of an weird export error. Though I guess this will get fixed soon. Nothing much I can do here for now. :) 4 Replie(s)
Majin Punisher!?
Gast kopiert hier einfach mal Techniken links und rechts. Ist das hier nen Techniken Ausverkauf? XD
Goku wäre stolz, hoffentlich macht er sich Notizen... ;P
Übrigens... Kapitel 5 des Buu Novels ist endlich online auf deutsch, Kapitel 6 kommt in ein paar Wochen. Ich wollte ein paar Kapitel auf Lager haben, bevor wir weiter machen, deshalb hat es so lange gedauert.
Viel Spaß beim Lesen! :)
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Gast kopiert hier einfach mal Techniken links und rechts. Ist das hier nen Techniken Ausverkauf? XD
Goku wäre stolz, hoffentlich macht er sich Notizen... ;P
Übrigens... Kapitel 5 des Buu Novels ist endlich online auf deutsch, Kapitel 6 kommt in ein paar Wochen. Ich wollte ein paar Kapitel auf Lager haben, bevor wir weiter machen, deshalb hat es so lange gedauert.
Viel Spaß beim Lesen! :)
Is that... the freaking Majin Punisher?!
Gast copies techniques left and right here, what a maniac! Is this the technique bargain sale? XD
Goku would be proud, hopefully he takes notes... ;P 4 Replie(s)
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Gast copies techniques left and right here, what a maniac! Is this the technique bargain sale? XD
Goku would be proud, hopefully he takes notes... ;P 4 Replie(s)
Viel Spaß beim Lesen, Kapitel 6 kommt in ein paar Wochen!
Dann geht Buu's Abenteuer erst so richtig los! :)
Fanfic u4, chapter 5
Dann geht Buu's Abenteuer erst so richtig los! :)
Anthryrion was saying:
Jeder normale Kämpfer: 1 Bohne.
Vegetto: Erstmal eine Handvoll davon.^^
Vegetto: Erstmal eine Handvoll davon.^^
Eine Bohne ist runter gefallen. ^^
Zukunfts-Vegetto sollte diese Bohne suchen! XD
Damian Qualshy was saying:
ZGrssd was saying: Damian Qualshy was saying: What just happened
He is waiting for the ship being build.
10 days have passed thus far.
Okay that explains the skip, what about this page?
He is waiting for the ship being build.
10 days have passed thus far.
Okay that explains the skip, what about this page?
What exaclty isn't clear on this page here?
BangBang was saying:
Damian Qualshy was saying: ZGrssd was saying: Damian Qualshy was saying: What just happened
He is waiting for the ship being build.
10 days have passed thus far.
Okay that explains the skip, what about this page?
Guess he and his friend are selling stuff to make some money and pass the time.
He is waiting for the ship being build.
10 days have passed thus far.
Okay that explains the skip, what about this page?
Guess he and his friend are selling stuff to make some money and pass the time.
Pretty sure Physalis is Yamoshi's wife, not his friend. But yeah ^^ 1 Replie(s)
JasonPhoenix was saying:
"For thousands of years I've laid dormant!!"
With this, the history of Universe 4 (minus that one episode involving Tapion) as we knew it has been told. If this does continue, I'm interested to see where it picks up. Until then, great showing!
With this, the history of Universe 4 (minus that one episode involving Tapion) as we knew it has been told. If this does continue, I'm interested to see where it picks up. Until then, great showing!
Yes, we will try our best to translate all chapters that are released in French! We have 2 more chapters in advance. Though I will most likely not release the next chapter for at least 2 weeks. :)
PMC was saying:
"history written in the blood of the victors."
You mean BY the Victors?
You mean BY the Victors?
I'll fix it. 1 Replie(s)
RoyalProf was saying:
Was sind das für Partikel im Hintergrund von Panel 3? Die kann ich irgendwie nicht wirklich zuordnen.
Das ist einfach nur ein simpler Hintergrundeffekt. Ich persönlich hätte was anderes genommen, aber das war halt BK-81 ihre Wahl damals. :)
Monster was saying:
ZenBuu was saying: Manga1977 was saying: Is this going to get another page or has it been abandon?
dbfan was saying: When are we getting more pages?
Soon, very very soon!
We already have the next two chapters translated. :)
Why haven't they been released yet if they've been translated?
dbfan was saying: When are we getting more pages?
Soon, very very soon!
We already have the next two chapters translated. :)
Why haven't they been released yet if they've been translated?
Because we want to have more in advance. But let me drop the next chapter now, that concludes at least the Buu Saga from Zen Buu's view. After that, the real adventure begins for him!
SevenPuppet was saying:
ZenBuu was saying: Manga1977 was saying: Is this going to get another page or has it been abandon?
dbfan was saying: When are we getting more pages?
Soon, very very soon!
We already have the next two chapters translated. :)
dbfan was saying: When are we getting more pages?
Soon, very very soon!
We already have the next two chapters translated. :)
You know, translating that much text takes a lot of time... and we do this in our free time. If you want, you can gladly help us, instead of doubting our decisions here... ;) 1 Replie(s)
Finally, after a long time, the U4 Buu novel continues with chapter 6! Have fun reading! :)
DB Multiverse page 2408
Referenz ist "Der Ritterschlag" von Edmund Blair Leighton!
DBMultiverse Colors page 251
Infernape2244 was saying:
Ok. Ich bin gespannt was hier noch kommt. Ist denn schon bekannt wie lange dieser Comic hier gehen wird?
Soweit ich das sehen kann, soll der Comic wohl insgesamt 75 Seiten haben, plus ein Bonus Kapitel, mit ein paar What If Stories zu der ganzen Broly Thematik. Denn zumindest im englischen Bereich, haben sich doch sehr viele Leute aufgeregt, wieso die Z Fighter (angeblich) so dumm handeln. Ich bin zwar immer noch der Meinung, dass wir hier bei DB sind und nicht bei Death Note, wo 4d Schach gespielt wird... die Z Kämpfer haben nie wirklich super schlau gehandelt. Aber gut. ^^
Der Titel dieses Kapitels ist übrigens eine Referenz zu Kapitel 11 von DBM (Vegetto's letzte Reserven). 1 Replie(s)
FearfulDivine was saying:
Man not a flashback chapter....
This is not a flashback chapter, even though the cover might be a bit misleading tbh
Damian Qualshy was saying:
Broly's? What last resources?
Also what does OAV mean
Also what does OAV mean
OAV = Original Animated Video
Usually it's called OVA, but some also use OAV. But don't ask me why Sayazur called it like that, since it's not an animated video.
However... this cover title is surely a reference to chapter 11 of DBM, where Vegetto finishes U20 Broly. Which was also called "Vegetto's last resources". 1 Replie(s)
PurpleAqua was saying:
ZenBuu sagte: Mugetsu sagte: ZenBuu sagte: Mugetsu sagte: Verstehe die Frage nicht wirklich. Warum sollte er keine Energie mehr haben?? Wirklich viel hat er nicht gemacht. Wir reden hier von Dragon Ball. Göttliche Geschöpfe. Und das soll’s gewesen sein? Auch wenn viele Seiten vergangen sind haben sie kaum was gemacht Schlagwechsel technisch gesehen.
Außerdem ist Ghast eine Fusion aus vielen Namekianern. Dies sollte ihm erlauben sich viel öfters zu regenerieren als 2-3 mal..Ich weiß ja nicht..
Vielleicht weil Gast höchstpersönlich auf der letzten Seite sagt, dass er nicht mehr lange durchhält? XD
Gast ist nicht Cell oder Buu.
Ok. Es geht hier auch um den letzten Halbfinal Kampf. Ich finde einfach nur das Ghast extrem runtergespielt wird. Er hat im mentalen Kampf gegen Son Bra jede Aktion von ihr vereiteln können. Und dann sagen manche hier vor ein paar Seiten er wäre SSJ3 Level, was -wenn man alles richtig einbezieht- überhaupt nicht sein kann.
Ich finde Ghast ist (oder war) der interessanteste Charakter in DBM. Und dann lässt man ihn auf einmal so schwach aussehen…bad writing imo
PurpleAqua sagte: Mugetsu sagte: ZenBuu sagte: Mugetsu sagte: Verstehe die Frage nicht wirklich. Warum sollte er keine Energie mehr haben?? Wirklich viel hat er nicht gemacht. Wir reden hier von Dragon Ball. Göttliche Geschöpfe. Und das soll’s gewesen sein? Auch wenn viele Seiten vergangen sind haben sie kaum was gemacht Schlagwechsel technisch gesehen.
Außerdem ist Ghast eine Fusion aus vielen Namekianern. Dies sollte ihm erlauben sich viel öfters zu regenerieren als 2-3 mal..Ich weiß ja nicht..
Vielleicht weil Gast höchstpersönlich auf der letzten Seite sagt, dass er nicht mehr lange durchhält? XD
Gast ist nicht Cell oder Buu.
Ok. Es geht hier auch um den letzten Halbfinal Kampf. Ich finde einfach nur das Ghast extrem runtergespielt wird. Er hat im mentalen Kampf gegen Son Bra jede Aktion von ihr vereiteln können. Und dann sagen manche hier vor ein paar Seiten er wäre SSJ3 Level, was -wenn man alles richtig einbezieht- überhaupt nicht sein kann.
Ich finde Ghast ist (oder war) der interessanteste Charakter in DBM. Und dann lässt man ihn auf einmal so schwach aussehen…bad writing imo
Ich finde nicht das man Ghast hier schwach aussehen lässt. Ghast ist auf SSJ 3 Level das sieht man daran das er in seinem Universum Buu besiegt hat, mit Vegeta SSJ 3 mithalten konnte, das er einen ausgeglichenen mentalen Kampf gegen Bra hatte die auch auf SSJ 3 Level ist da Sie mit Gohan mithalten konnte. Und das er jetzt gegen Janemba verliert. Janemba ist stärker als SSJ 3 Goku der im Jenseits einen niedrigeren Energie Verbrauch hat da sein Körper schon tot war. Und es brauchte Gogeta um Janemba zu besiegen. Das was Ghast so stark gemacht hat war seine Magie aber durch die viele Zeit hatten sowohl Zenbuu als auch XII genug Zeit Gegenmaßnahmen zu entwickeln. Besonder gegen Buu müsste Ghast ja dann schwach ausgesehen haben da er direkt getötet wurde.
Ich finde es gut das man hier sehr gut die Grenzen der Charaktere aufzeigt und nicht immer Plotarmor hat. Außerdem muss Ghast hier sterben oder zumindest verlieren damit das Finale spannend bleibt Goku gegen Ghast wäre Gut gegen Gut und egal wer gewinnt das Ende steht fest.
@Mugetsu Wow, können wir bitte vorsichtig sein mit der abgedroschenen "Bad writing" Phrase?
Ich stimme Purple Aqua vollkommen zu. Ich verstehe nicht ganz, wieso du denkst das Gast hier zu schwach dargestellt wird. Ich denke es ist genau das Gegenteil. Er konnte mit Ghost SSJ3 U13 Vegeta mithalten. Er hat Hatchiyack vernichtet, der logischerweise stärker als Vegeta und Broly sein sollte. Er hat sich in dem mentalen Battle mit Son Bra recht gut angestellt, allerdings war das nur ein mentales Battle, kein richtiger Kampf.
@Purple Aqua, an dieser Stelle mal noch eine kleine Korrektur. Son Bra im SSJ2 ist weeeeeeitaus stärker als Gohan oder ein SSJ3. Hat man ja bereits in der Majin Rebellion gesehen. SSJ2 Bra ist so stark wie SSJ Vegetto. Gast sagte zwar, er ist Bra kräftemäßig unterlegen, allerdings schätze ich ihn auf mindestens Mystic Gohan Level ein.
Wir wissen ebenso nicht wie stark dieser Janemba hier ist. Wenn er tatsächlich aus allem Bösen von XXI's Universum 5 geschaffen wurde (XXI hat sein gesamtes Universum verschlungen), dann sollte dieser auch sehr viel stärker als der Fusion Reborn Janemba sein, bei welchem es übrigens Gogeta! gebraucht hat, um ihn zu besiegen...
Außerdem wurde bereits mehrmals von Gast selbst gesagt, dass er sich gerne zurückhält für eine Herausforderung. Und selbst Goku und Vegeta sind hier überrascht von seiner Power. Zusätzlich sollten wir bedenken, dass dieser Janemba von XXI gesteuert wird und weitaus strategischer, sowie intelligenter handelt. Das die Splitter Gast seine Magie und Regeneration blockieren, sollte eigentlich schon alles verdeutlichen, dass wir es hier nicht mit dem M12 Janemba zutun haben.
Zum Abschluss... noch ist dieser Kampf nicht beendet. Also... Geduld haben!
Das SSJ2 Bra weit aus stärker sein soll würde ich eher mit Vorsicht sagen den im Majin Ark hätte Bra an mehreren Stellen verloren wenn sie nicht die magischen Bohnen gehabt hätte. Ich würde zustimmen das sie stärker als ein regulärer SSJ 3 ist. Aber ich glaube auch das Gohan viel stärker als ein SSJ 3 ist deswegen sehe die beiden eher auf einem ähnlichen Level.
Außerdem ist Ghast eine Fusion aus vielen Namekianern. Dies sollte ihm erlauben sich viel öfters zu regenerieren als 2-3 mal..Ich weiß ja nicht..
Vielleicht weil Gast höchstpersönlich auf der letzten Seite sagt, dass er nicht mehr lange durchhält? XD
Gast ist nicht Cell oder Buu.
Ok. Es geht hier auch um den letzten Halbfinal Kampf. Ich finde einfach nur das Ghast extrem runtergespielt wird. Er hat im mentalen Kampf gegen Son Bra jede Aktion von ihr vereiteln können. Und dann sagen manche hier vor ein paar Seiten er wäre SSJ3 Level, was -wenn man alles richtig einbezieht- überhaupt nicht sein kann.
Ich finde Ghast ist (oder war) der interessanteste Charakter in DBM. Und dann lässt man ihn auf einmal so schwach aussehen…bad writing imo
PurpleAqua sagte: Mugetsu sagte: ZenBuu sagte: Mugetsu sagte: Verstehe die Frage nicht wirklich. Warum sollte er keine Energie mehr haben?? Wirklich viel hat er nicht gemacht. Wir reden hier von Dragon Ball. Göttliche Geschöpfe. Und das soll’s gewesen sein? Auch wenn viele Seiten vergangen sind haben sie kaum was gemacht Schlagwechsel technisch gesehen.
Außerdem ist Ghast eine Fusion aus vielen Namekianern. Dies sollte ihm erlauben sich viel öfters zu regenerieren als 2-3 mal..Ich weiß ja nicht..
Vielleicht weil Gast höchstpersönlich auf der letzten Seite sagt, dass er nicht mehr lange durchhält? XD
Gast ist nicht Cell oder Buu.
Ok. Es geht hier auch um den letzten Halbfinal Kampf. Ich finde einfach nur das Ghast extrem runtergespielt wird. Er hat im mentalen Kampf gegen Son Bra jede Aktion von ihr vereiteln können. Und dann sagen manche hier vor ein paar Seiten er wäre SSJ3 Level, was -wenn man alles richtig einbezieht- überhaupt nicht sein kann.
Ich finde Ghast ist (oder war) der interessanteste Charakter in DBM. Und dann lässt man ihn auf einmal so schwach aussehen…bad writing imo
Ich finde nicht das man Ghast hier schwach aussehen lässt. Ghast ist auf SSJ 3 Level das sieht man daran das er in seinem Universum Buu besiegt hat, mit Vegeta SSJ 3 mithalten konnte, das er einen ausgeglichenen mentalen Kampf gegen Bra hatte die auch auf SSJ 3 Level ist da Sie mit Gohan mithalten konnte. Und das er jetzt gegen Janemba verliert. Janemba ist stärker als SSJ 3 Goku der im Jenseits einen niedrigeren Energie Verbrauch hat da sein Körper schon tot war. Und es brauchte Gogeta um Janemba zu besiegen. Das was Ghast so stark gemacht hat war seine Magie aber durch die viele Zeit hatten sowohl Zenbuu als auch XII genug Zeit Gegenmaßnahmen zu entwickeln. Besonder gegen Buu müsste Ghast ja dann schwach ausgesehen haben da er direkt getötet wurde.
Ich finde es gut das man hier sehr gut die Grenzen der Charaktere aufzeigt und nicht immer Plotarmor hat. Außerdem muss Ghast hier sterben oder zumindest verlieren damit das Finale spannend bleibt Goku gegen Ghast wäre Gut gegen Gut und egal wer gewinnt das Ende steht fest.
@Mugetsu Wow, können wir bitte vorsichtig sein mit der abgedroschenen "Bad writing" Phrase?
Ich stimme Purple Aqua vollkommen zu. Ich verstehe nicht ganz, wieso du denkst das Gast hier zu schwach dargestellt wird. Ich denke es ist genau das Gegenteil. Er konnte mit Ghost SSJ3 U13 Vegeta mithalten. Er hat Hatchiyack vernichtet, der logischerweise stärker als Vegeta und Broly sein sollte. Er hat sich in dem mentalen Battle mit Son Bra recht gut angestellt, allerdings war das nur ein mentales Battle, kein richtiger Kampf.
@Purple Aqua, an dieser Stelle mal noch eine kleine Korrektur. Son Bra im SSJ2 ist weeeeeeitaus stärker als Gohan oder ein SSJ3. Hat man ja bereits in der Majin Rebellion gesehen. SSJ2 Bra ist so stark wie SSJ Vegetto. Gast sagte zwar, er ist Bra kräftemäßig unterlegen, allerdings schätze ich ihn auf mindestens Mystic Gohan Level ein.
Wir wissen ebenso nicht wie stark dieser Janemba hier ist. Wenn er tatsächlich aus allem Bösen von XXI's Universum 5 geschaffen wurde (XXI hat sein gesamtes Universum verschlungen), dann sollte dieser auch sehr viel stärker als der Fusion Reborn Janemba sein, bei welchem es übrigens Gogeta! gebraucht hat, um ihn zu besiegen...
Außerdem wurde bereits mehrmals von Gast selbst gesagt, dass er sich gerne zurückhält für eine Herausforderung. Und selbst Goku und Vegeta sind hier überrascht von seiner Power. Zusätzlich sollten wir bedenken, dass dieser Janemba von XXI gesteuert wird und weitaus strategischer, sowie intelligenter handelt. Das die Splitter Gast seine Magie und Regeneration blockieren, sollte eigentlich schon alles verdeutlichen, dass wir es hier nicht mit dem M12 Janemba zutun haben.
Zum Abschluss... noch ist dieser Kampf nicht beendet. Also... Geduld haben!
Das SSJ2 Bra weit aus stärker sein soll würde ich eher mit Vorsicht sagen den im Majin Ark hätte Bra an mehreren Stellen verloren wenn sie nicht die magischen Bohnen gehabt hätte. Ich würde zustimmen das sie stärker als ein regulärer SSJ 3 ist. Aber ich glaube auch das Gohan viel stärker als ein SSJ 3 ist deswegen sehe die beiden eher auf einem ähnlichen Level.
Bitte lies dir nochmal Majin Bra vs Gohan, Cell und Co durch. Ja, sie wurde durch das Teamwork der Helden öfter überrascht, hat am Ende trotzdem alle getötet. Bra ist viel stärker als ein SSJ3. Da gibt es nicht mal Diskussionbedarf. Punkt. XD
Oder wie erklärst du, dass Vegetto gegen Ginyu-Bra im Weltall SSJ2 und dann sogar SSJ3 gegangen ist um sie auszuknocken? Das hatte sicher nichts mit Ginyu zutun. Bra ist in Base Form alleine so stark wie Perfect Cell. Normale Saiyajins können in base laut Salagir nicht mal Frieza töten, ohne SSJ zu gehen. Wenn das nicht alles sagt, dann weiß ich auch nicht. 1 Replie(s)
Cosmo was saying:
Ob der Comic zu Ende ist oder werden wir einen Übergang zu dem anderen bekommen
Nach diesem Kapitel kommt noch ein ganz kurzes, danach ist Schluss. Allerdings hat Goten-Kun bereits erwähnt, dass er in Zukunft gerne weitere Abenteuer über Tambo und seine Freunde zeichnen möchte.
Nahro was saying:
Wünsche mir so sehr, dass ich diesen Manga irgendwann in meinen Lebzeiten noch als Anime geniessen darf. Ich meine, kann man da nicht mal bei Toei anfragen? Die sind doch eh schon bereit jeden anderen Dragonball Franchise bis zum geht nicht mehr auszul...öffeln... ihr wisst schon.... Super, Heroes, Daima... Da wär mal eine erfrischende Abwechslung zu Dragon Ball Z "original";) Massstäben angebracht. Ausserdem sollten Asura und Salagir ja bereits wegen den Lizenzrechten mit denen in Korrespondenz stehen, da sollte eine Anfrage doch möglich sein? (Selbstverständlich auch nur, wenn Salagir und Asura das wünschen)
Und sind wir mal ehrlich, Toei wird sich wohl sehr bewusst sein, dass DBM ein Goldesel sein könnte...
Die Seite wieder mal Top!
Und sind wir mal ehrlich, Toei wird sich wohl sehr bewusst sein, dass DBM ein Goldesel sein könnte...
Die Seite wieder mal Top!
Auszug aus dem FAQ:
Werdet ihr von Toei, Jump, Namco, und-oder Toriyama gesponsert, bzw. unterstützt?
Nein.
Aber habt ihr die Erlaubnis dafür...?
Nein. Wir dürften es, wenn das hier eine Parodie wäre (wie der bekannte spanische Comic Dragon Fall), aber hier würden wir das Copyright brauchen, das wir aber sicherlich nie bekommen würden.
Aber, solange wir den Comic nicht verkaufen, gibt es keinen Grund, warum wir aufhören sollen, etwas Werbung für Dragonball zu machen. :)
In Japan sind solche Fan-Comics, genannt Doujinshi, sehr zahlreich und sehr beliebt.
Klartext:
wird niemals passieren. Allerdings gibt es ein paar Fans, die sich mal an eine animierte Version gesetzt haben, findet man ganz einfach auf YouTube. Das ist aber schon Jahre her und wurde meines Wissens nach nie weitergeführt. 1 Replie(s)
Vegetax18 was saying:
Wait how did Zenbuu comment 10 days before the page was released LOL
Obviously I'm a translator here too, so I can see and comment on pages already before they release. ^^
AberrantDesign was saying:
Vegetax18 was saying: Wait how did Zenbuu comment 10 days before the page was released LOL
I guess he finally managed to figure out Bulma's time travel technology, he's one step closer to getting the universal travel working
I guess he finally managed to figure out Bulma's time travel technology, he's one step closer to getting the universal travel working
Hey, that was a secret! :o 4 Replie(s)
goten-kun was saying:
It's normal to have criticism. It's necessary. It can help the author to improve and also it can raise questions, and allow the author to give his point of view.
I don't mind having criticism at all. It's good.
I don't mind having criticism at all. It's good.
While that is true to some degree, if it's constructive criticism! But some people here don't know how to behave respectfully to the artists and authors. It's like they owe the readers something, while all of this here is free to read. Some people were/are pretty rude sometimes here on this website and get really upset about minimalistic stuff. That's a fact. You almost never see a positive comment from these people either. It's like they only visit this website to complain. Though those are usually only a bunch of people, I'm not talking about the majority of the readers.
That being said, let me repeat it again... if someone delivers constructive criticism, it's totally fine, if it's also in a respectful manner. But some people just go like "what is this shit; they just want to waste the readers time; nothing of this makes sense; I hate this comic, yet I come back every day to keep complaining". That's unfortunately the reality here. 1 Replie(s)
Mugetsu was saying:
ZenBuu sagte: Mugetsu sagte: Verstehe die Frage nicht wirklich. Warum sollte er keine Energie mehr haben?? Wirklich viel hat er nicht gemacht. Wir reden hier von Dragon Ball. Göttliche Geschöpfe. Und das soll’s gewesen sein? Auch wenn viele Seiten vergangen sind haben sie kaum was gemacht Schlagwechsel technisch gesehen.
Außerdem ist Ghast eine Fusion aus vielen Namekianern. Dies sollte ihm erlauben sich viel öfters zu regenerieren als 2-3 mal..Ich weiß ja nicht..
Vielleicht weil Gast höchstpersönlich auf der letzten Seite sagt, dass er nicht mehr lange durchhält? XD
Gast ist nicht Cell oder Buu.
Ok. Es geht hier auch um den letzten Halbfinal Kampf. Ich finde einfach nur das Ghast extrem runtergespielt wird. Er hat im mentalen Kampf gegen Son Bra jede Aktion von ihr vereiteln können. Und dann sagen manche hier vor ein paar Seiten er wäre SSJ3 Level, was -wenn man alles richtig einbezieht- überhaupt nicht sein kann.
Ich finde Ghast ist (oder war) der interessanteste Charakter in DBM. Und dann lässt man ihn auf einmal so schwach aussehen…bad writing imo
Außerdem ist Ghast eine Fusion aus vielen Namekianern. Dies sollte ihm erlauben sich viel öfters zu regenerieren als 2-3 mal..Ich weiß ja nicht..
Vielleicht weil Gast höchstpersönlich auf der letzten Seite sagt, dass er nicht mehr lange durchhält? XD
Gast ist nicht Cell oder Buu.
Ok. Es geht hier auch um den letzten Halbfinal Kampf. Ich finde einfach nur das Ghast extrem runtergespielt wird. Er hat im mentalen Kampf gegen Son Bra jede Aktion von ihr vereiteln können. Und dann sagen manche hier vor ein paar Seiten er wäre SSJ3 Level, was -wenn man alles richtig einbezieht- überhaupt nicht sein kann.
Ich finde Ghast ist (oder war) der interessanteste Charakter in DBM. Und dann lässt man ihn auf einmal so schwach aussehen…bad writing imo
PurpleAqua was saying:
Mugetsu sagte: ZenBuu sagte: Mugetsu sagte: Verstehe die Frage nicht wirklich. Warum sollte er keine Energie mehr haben?? Wirklich viel hat er nicht gemacht. Wir reden hier von Dragon Ball. Göttliche Geschöpfe. Und das soll’s gewesen sein? Auch wenn viele Seiten vergangen sind haben sie kaum was gemacht Schlagwechsel technisch gesehen.
Außerdem ist Ghast eine Fusion aus vielen Namekianern. Dies sollte ihm erlauben sich viel öfters zu regenerieren als 2-3 mal..Ich weiß ja nicht..
Vielleicht weil Gast höchstpersönlich auf der letzten Seite sagt, dass er nicht mehr lange durchhält? XD
Gast ist nicht Cell oder Buu.
Ok. Es geht hier auch um den letzten Halbfinal Kampf. Ich finde einfach nur das Ghast extrem runtergespielt wird. Er hat im mentalen Kampf gegen Son Bra jede Aktion von ihr vereiteln können. Und dann sagen manche hier vor ein paar Seiten er wäre SSJ3 Level, was -wenn man alles richtig einbezieht- überhaupt nicht sein kann.
Ich finde Ghast ist (oder war) der interessanteste Charakter in DBM. Und dann lässt man ihn auf einmal so schwach aussehen…bad writing imo
Ich finde nicht das man Ghast hier schwach aussehen lässt. Ghast ist auf SSJ 3 Level das sieht man daran das er in seinem Universum Buu besiegt hat, mit Vegeta SSJ 3 mithalten konnte, das er einen ausgeglichenen mentalen Kampf gegen Bra hatte die auch auf SSJ 3 Level ist da Sie mit Gohan mithalten konnte. Und das er jetzt gegen Janemba verliert. Janemba ist stärker als SSJ 3 Goku der im Jenseits einen niedrigeren Energie Verbrauch hat da sein Körper schon tot war. Und es brauchte Gogeta um Janemba zu besiegen. Das was Ghast so stark gemacht hat war seine Magie aber durch die viele Zeit hatten sowohl Zenbuu als auch XII genug Zeit Gegenmaßnahmen zu entwickeln. Besonder gegen Buu müsste Ghast ja dann schwach ausgesehen haben da er direkt getötet wurde.
Ich finde es gut das man hier sehr gut die Grenzen der Charaktere aufzeigt und nicht immer Plotarmor hat. Außerdem muss Ghast hier sterben oder zumindest verlieren damit das Finale spannend bleibt Goku gegen Ghast wäre Gut gegen Gut und egal wer gewinnt das Ende steht fest.
Außerdem ist Ghast eine Fusion aus vielen Namekianern. Dies sollte ihm erlauben sich viel öfters zu regenerieren als 2-3 mal..Ich weiß ja nicht..
Vielleicht weil Gast höchstpersönlich auf der letzten Seite sagt, dass er nicht mehr lange durchhält? XD
Gast ist nicht Cell oder Buu.
Ok. Es geht hier auch um den letzten Halbfinal Kampf. Ich finde einfach nur das Ghast extrem runtergespielt wird. Er hat im mentalen Kampf gegen Son Bra jede Aktion von ihr vereiteln können. Und dann sagen manche hier vor ein paar Seiten er wäre SSJ3 Level, was -wenn man alles richtig einbezieht- überhaupt nicht sein kann.
Ich finde Ghast ist (oder war) der interessanteste Charakter in DBM. Und dann lässt man ihn auf einmal so schwach aussehen…bad writing imo
Ich finde nicht das man Ghast hier schwach aussehen lässt. Ghast ist auf SSJ 3 Level das sieht man daran das er in seinem Universum Buu besiegt hat, mit Vegeta SSJ 3 mithalten konnte, das er einen ausgeglichenen mentalen Kampf gegen Bra hatte die auch auf SSJ 3 Level ist da Sie mit Gohan mithalten konnte. Und das er jetzt gegen Janemba verliert. Janemba ist stärker als SSJ 3 Goku der im Jenseits einen niedrigeren Energie Verbrauch hat da sein Körper schon tot war. Und es brauchte Gogeta um Janemba zu besiegen. Das was Ghast so stark gemacht hat war seine Magie aber durch die viele Zeit hatten sowohl Zenbuu als auch XII genug Zeit Gegenmaßnahmen zu entwickeln. Besonder gegen Buu müsste Ghast ja dann schwach ausgesehen haben da er direkt getötet wurde.
Ich finde es gut das man hier sehr gut die Grenzen der Charaktere aufzeigt und nicht immer Plotarmor hat. Außerdem muss Ghast hier sterben oder zumindest verlieren damit das Finale spannend bleibt Goku gegen Ghast wäre Gut gegen Gut und egal wer gewinnt das Ende steht fest.
@Mugetsu Wow, können wir bitte vorsichtig sein mit der abgedroschenen "Bad writing" Phrase?
Ich stimme Purple Aqua vollkommen zu. Ich verstehe nicht ganz, wieso du denkst das Gast hier zu schwach dargestellt wird. Ich denke es ist genau das Gegenteil. Er konnte mit Ghost SSJ3 U13 Vegeta mithalten. Er hat Hatchiyack vernichtet, der logischerweise stärker als Vegeta und Broly sein sollte. Er hat sich in dem mentalen Battle mit Son Bra recht gut angestellt, allerdings war das nur ein mentales Battle, kein richtiger Kampf.
@Purple Aqua, an dieser Stelle mal noch eine kleine Korrektur. Son Bra im SSJ2 ist weeeeeeitaus stärker als Gohan oder ein SSJ3. Hat man ja bereits in der Majin Rebellion gesehen. SSJ2 Bra ist so stark wie SSJ Vegetto. Gast sagte zwar, er ist Bra kräftemäßig unterlegen, allerdings schätze ich ihn auf mindestens Mystic Gohan Level ein.
Wir wissen ebenso nicht wie stark dieser Janemba hier ist. Wenn er tatsächlich aus allem Bösen von XXI's Universum 5 geschaffen wurde (XXI hat sein gesamtes Universum verschlungen), dann sollte dieser auch sehr viel stärker als der Fusion Reborn Janemba sein, bei welchem es übrigens Gogeta! gebraucht hat, um ihn zu besiegen...
Außerdem wurde bereits mehrmals von Gast selbst gesagt, dass er sich gerne zurückhält für eine Herausforderung. Und selbst Goku und Vegeta sind hier überrascht von seiner Power. Zusätzlich sollten wir bedenken, dass dieser Janemba von XXI gesteuert wird und weitaus strategischer, sowie intelligenter handelt. Das die Splitter Gast seine Magie und Regeneration blockieren, sollte eigentlich schon alles verdeutlichen, dass wir es hier nicht mit dem M12 Janemba zutun haben.
Zum Abschluss... noch ist dieser Kampf nicht beendet. Also... Geduld haben! 1 Replie(s)
Teleported_Bread was saying:
goten-kun was saying: Von Durmark was saying: Everyone has sniffed a bunch of glue now and thinks letting this literal demon leave is a good idea.
Good god. They know he is coming back the second he has regenerated. Piccolo knows he is coming back. They always come back. Even if he is not coming back soon, he WILL come back when Piccolo is old again.
Everyone has turned into a damned idiot. Letting people go was Goku's flaw. Piccolo never did this and never would do this.
It worked for Goku, he let Piccolo go and he became his friend. He let Vegeta go and he became his friend. He let Majin Boo go and he became his friend.
Yes, there is a risk.
And Piccolo never did this because he didn't have this choice by the past.
Is he doing a mistake? Maybe. Maybe not.^^
I have no idea why but I feel like suddenly seemingly everybody is a critic for everything that happens with little to no thought otherwise. It's really annoying. Like, think a little more on it before talking about how crap this or that is.
It's not just here. The Broly War special, too. It's so clear what's happening here and there yet somebody has to think less and complain more.
Good god. They know he is coming back the second he has regenerated. Piccolo knows he is coming back. They always come back. Even if he is not coming back soon, he WILL come back when Piccolo is old again.
Everyone has turned into a damned idiot. Letting people go was Goku's flaw. Piccolo never did this and never would do this.
It worked for Goku, he let Piccolo go and he became his friend. He let Vegeta go and he became his friend. He let Majin Boo go and he became his friend.
Yes, there is a risk.
And Piccolo never did this because he didn't have this choice by the past.
Is he doing a mistake? Maybe. Maybe not.^^
I have no idea why but I feel like suddenly seemingly everybody is a critic for everything that happens with little to no thought otherwise. It's really annoying. Like, think a little more on it before talking about how crap this or that is.
It's not just here. The Broly War special, too. It's so clear what's happening here and there yet somebody has to think less and complain more.
That's not suddenly, this is how it is for many years by now. Trust me, as a mod I have to read every comment here and some people really leave the impression, especially judging by their comment history, that they are only here to complain about stuff. And the funniest part about that is, when you call somebody out for it, you only want to silence every criticism on this website, at least in their mind. It's absolutely ridiculous sometimes. But we had this broken record over and over already.
RetroOVER9000 was saying:
You can tell by Piccolo's face in the background. Gast is cooked. Poor green bastard. I thought he had more in him. I guess he was just OP Magic with little strength afterall.
I wouldn't call an SSJ3 (at least) tier fighter "little strength", especially for a Namekian. Gast is definitely one of the top dogs in this tournament, it has a reason he is in the semi finals here. 1 Replie(s)
youcef was saying:
ZenBuu was saying: youcef was saying: I'm not against this, you guys do what you enjoy.
I'm just disappointed, and thought there were Pg standards on this very popular website.
Just curious. This picture here is a problem (while this comic already had some pretty sexual puns), you say the Lanfan page was used as a gag, which I would agree. Which is btw the same case with this page. But why ignoring the explicit nudes of Hanasia in her novel? That surely wasn't meant to be a gag. What I'm saying is, why are people surprised to see some lewd stuff here on this website? This is clearly not the first instance. And this here isn't even a big deal, at least for me, they are still fully clothed.
And while we are at the topic of all of this here being kid friendly... there is a lot of profanity in DBM too, not even mentioning all of the detailed gore scenes we already had. Also this comic here is also pretty old, like 10 years at least I think.
I'm just trying to figure out, as to why drawing the line here with this page? But to each their own I guess. :)
Here a comment from Salagir again on the Lanfan page and his view about it:
Booooobs ★_★
I understand some people (americans?) have a problem with tits even showed in a non-sexual situation, but this isn't the case in most of the world, especially in a black-n-white simple drawing. The level of nudity used in this page is not more than what was seen before in the manga Dragon Ball.
Add to that, that DBM is mainly for people who followed DB 30 years ago, it's not meant to be compatible with 10-years-olds like DB Super is. In my opinion, to see the level of gore and violence we have in DBM, you have to be old enough, and way more old than the required age to see even full frontal nudity in a non-porn drawing.
We don't have "tags" in the DBM website and I wouldn't know how to use a tag "nsfw" there. :)
If you talk about what I did in Hanasia, it was a very special coding that would take me a long time to reproduce. I won't take this time for this one-time instance which will soon go away from the news.
Also, please do not double post, you can edit your comments if you wanna add something (rule #9).
Well you've right in that sense, I didn't pay attention to Hanasia as I didn't read it (my bad).
It's just a shame I can't show this to my kid. He is 14 and we've been hunting together (I think WW2 is way worse but hey history lessons are important)
He can handle the level of gore and profanity of DBM, but this page is just sexual.
I don't want to push this content onto him, thank god I didn't.
I believe sexualisation/ access to porn online is bad. At that age it's Normal to be curious, and this is the start of a slippery slope.
DB makes fun of perversion, here it's the opposite.
Sexual content should be in its own category, this is Clearly 18+ and can cause a lot of issues down the road.
I myself have been exposed to this type of stuff as a teenager and I regret deeply having developed my sexuality based on internet porn.
It's just a shame, given how great DBM is to make it off limits.
I'm just disappointed, and thought there were Pg standards on this very popular website.
Just curious. This picture here is a problem (while this comic already had some pretty sexual puns), you say the Lanfan page was used as a gag, which I would agree. Which is btw the same case with this page. But why ignoring the explicit nudes of Hanasia in her novel? That surely wasn't meant to be a gag. What I'm saying is, why are people surprised to see some lewd stuff here on this website? This is clearly not the first instance. And this here isn't even a big deal, at least for me, they are still fully clothed.
And while we are at the topic of all of this here being kid friendly... there is a lot of profanity in DBM too, not even mentioning all of the detailed gore scenes we already had. Also this comic here is also pretty old, like 10 years at least I think.
I'm just trying to figure out, as to why drawing the line here with this page? But to each their own I guess. :)
Here a comment from Salagir again on the Lanfan page and his view about it:
Booooobs ★_★
I understand some people (americans?) have a problem with tits even showed in a non-sexual situation, but this isn't the case in most of the world, especially in a black-n-white simple drawing. The level of nudity used in this page is not more than what was seen before in the manga Dragon Ball.
Add to that, that DBM is mainly for people who followed DB 30 years ago, it's not meant to be compatible with 10-years-olds like DB Super is. In my opinion, to see the level of gore and violence we have in DBM, you have to be old enough, and way more old than the required age to see even full frontal nudity in a non-porn drawing.
We don't have "tags" in the DBM website and I wouldn't know how to use a tag "nsfw" there. :)
If you talk about what I did in Hanasia, it was a very special coding that would take me a long time to reproduce. I won't take this time for this one-time instance which will soon go away from the news.
Also, please do not double post, you can edit your comments if you wanna add something (rule #9).
Well you've right in that sense, I didn't pay attention to Hanasia as I didn't read it (my bad).
It's just a shame I can't show this to my kid. He is 14 and we've been hunting together (I think WW2 is way worse but hey history lessons are important)
He can handle the level of gore and profanity of DBM, but this page is just sexual.
I don't want to push this content onto him, thank god I didn't.
I believe sexualisation/ access to porn online is bad. At that age it's Normal to be curious, and this is the start of a slippery slope.
DB makes fun of perversion, here it's the opposite.
Sexual content should be in its own category, this is Clearly 18+ and can cause a lot of issues down the road.
I myself have been exposed to this type of stuff as a teenager and I regret deeply having developed my sexuality based on internet porn.
It's just a shame, given how great DBM is to make it off limits.
I mean, I do get your point to some extent of course, but overall I'm the same opinion as Salagir (what I posted above). If extreme gore and violence is no problem, I see personally no problem with some boobs. Actually I don't want to dive deeper into this topic now, because it kind of breaks the rules at some point.
But obviously I would never tell you how to raise your son of course, but if you want to show him DBM so badly, then only show him DBM. Super Bros Goku has nothing to do with DBM, it only gets hosted here and is available on other websites too, same like most of the other comics here. It's not like you are forced to read every comic on this website here.
And lastly, it's not ultimately that this page here is completely out of place. It has context with the pages before. For example page 63, page 66 and while no context with this here directly, page 73 would also be kinda questionable in this regard. Nobody complained there. Same as in other languages on this page here. Quite the contrary even. 1 Replie(s)
youcef was saying:
I'm not against this, you guys do what you enjoy.
I'm just disappointed, and thought there were Pg standards on this very popular website.
I'm just disappointed, and thought there were Pg standards on this very popular website.
Just curious. This picture here is a problem (while this comic already had some pretty sexual puns), you say the Lanfan page was used as a gag, which I would agree. Which is btw the same case with this page. But why ignoring the explicit nudes of Hanasia in her novel? That surely wasn't meant to be a gag. What I'm saying is, why are people surprised to see some lewd stuff here on this website? This is clearly not the first instance. And this here isn't even a big deal, at least for me, they are still fully clothed.
And while we are at the topic of all of this here being kid friendly... there is a lot of profanity in DBM too, not even mentioning all of the detailed gore scenes we already had. Also this comic here is also pretty old, like 10 years at least I think.
I'm just trying to figure out, as to why drawing the line here with this page? But to each their own I guess. :)
Here a comment from Salagir again on the Lanfan page and his view about it:
Booooobs ★_★
I understand some people (americans?) have a problem with tits even showed in a non-sexual situation, but this isn't the case in most of the world, especially in a black-n-white simple drawing. The level of nudity used in this page is not more than what was seen before in the manga Dragon Ball.
Add to that, that DBM is mainly for people who followed DB 30 years ago, it's not meant to be compatible with 10-years-olds like DB Super is. In my opinion, to see the level of gore and violence we have in DBM, you have to be old enough, and way more old than the required age to see even full frontal nudity in a non-porn drawing.
We don't have "tags" in the DBM website and I wouldn't know how to use a tag "nsfw" there. :)
If you talk about what I did in Hanasia, it was a very special coding that would take me a long time to reproduce. I won't take this time for this one-time instance which will soon go away from the news.
I understand some people (americans?) have a problem with tits even showed in a non-sexual situation, but this isn't the case in most of the world, especially in a black-n-white simple drawing. The level of nudity used in this page is not more than what was seen before in the manga Dragon Ball.
Add to that, that DBM is mainly for people who followed DB 30 years ago, it's not meant to be compatible with 10-years-olds like DB Super is. In my opinion, to see the level of gore and violence we have in DBM, you have to be old enough, and way more old than the required age to see even full frontal nudity in a non-porn drawing.
We don't have "tags" in the DBM website and I wouldn't know how to use a tag "nsfw" there. :)
If you talk about what I did in Hanasia, it was a very special coding that would take me a long time to reproduce. I won't take this time for this one-time instance which will soon go away from the news.
Also, please do not double post, you can edit your comments if you wanna add something (rule #9). 1 Replie(s)
RoyalProf was saying:
Oh man diese Roten Augen machen den Blick von "jetzt hat ihr mich wütend gemacht" zu "ihr werdet euch gleich wünschen niemals geboren worden zu sein"
Echt geil.
Echt geil.
Danke, ich habe sonst nichts auf der Seite gemacht, aber die Idee kam von mir. ^^
Es ist nur ein simpler edit gewesen, aber der Effekt ist stark. :D
Chronos was saying:
Buu's eyes with a faint glow is a nice touch.
chstar was saying:
Ooh I appreciate the art here. It makes Buu seem genuinely scary.
Lucas was saying:
And I second that, Buu looks awesome with this coloring.
Thank you guys! That was the only addition I made to this page and I get only positive reactions to it. :)
It's a very small addition, but the effect is strong. :D
Mugetsu was saying:
Verstehe die Frage nicht wirklich. Warum sollte er keine Energie mehr haben?? Wirklich viel hat er nicht gemacht. Wir reden hier von Dragon Ball. Göttliche Geschöpfe. Und das soll’s gewesen sein? Auch wenn viele Seiten vergangen sind haben sie kaum was gemacht Schlagwechsel technisch gesehen.
Außerdem ist Ghast eine Fusion aus vielen Namekianern. Dies sollte ihm erlauben sich viel öfters zu regenerieren als 2-3 mal..Ich weiß ja nicht..
Außerdem ist Ghast eine Fusion aus vielen Namekianern. Dies sollte ihm erlauben sich viel öfters zu regenerieren als 2-3 mal..Ich weiß ja nicht..
Vielleicht weil Gast höchstpersönlich auf der letzten Seite sagt, dass er nicht mehr lange durchhält? XD
Gast ist nicht Cell oder Buu. 1 Replie(s)
youcef was saying:
ZenBuu was saying: Damian Qualshy was saying: But why
Better question, why not? ;P
Didn't think I'd see hentai on this website
Better question, why not? ;P
Didn't think I'd see hentai on this website
Damian Qualshy was saying:
youcef was saying: ZenBuu was saying: Damian Qualshy was saying: But why
Better question, why not? ;P
Didn't think I'd see hentai on this website
Yeah, that...
Better question, why not? ;P
Didn't think I'd see hentai on this website
Yeah, that...
If you call this hentai... then let's just pretend this page doesn't exist then. Including the several nudes of Hanasia in the novel on this website. ;) 2 Replie(s)
Ayashi was saying:
How did they teleport to somewhere with no one (aka: no ki source) present?
The Kaioshin teleport (Kai Kai) is different from the IT, it doesn't need a Ki source to lock on. 1 Replie(s)
Shabby was saying:
color adds a lot to this page! The ghostly white Vegito startled me.
Drasknes44376 was saying:
I like the fact that Vegito colored dark than the rest. Show he’s in critical condition or whatnot. That’s a detail most comic don’t bother with. So kudo.
Thank you guys! :)
debu was saying:
Könnte Gast sich nicht theoretisch den Kopf abreißen und sich dann wieder regenieren? Im Kopf scheint ja kein Splitter zu sein.
Gegen Raichi war ja auch nicht viel mehr als sein Kopf übrig und er konnte sich noch heilen.
Gegen Raichi war ja auch nicht viel mehr als sein Kopf übrig und er konnte sich noch heilen.
Extrem riskant, gegen jemanden wie XXI, oder nicht?
PrinceOfTheHood was saying:
Und nun ein weiteres Special.
Es droht nämlich gerade zu spannend zu werden. x'D
Es droht nämlich gerade zu spannend zu werden. x'D
Dieses Kapitel geht länger als üblich, mit 36 Seiten.
TheXDDX was saying:
Jetzt kommt sowas wie Orange Gast
Wir sind hier nicht bei DBS (zum Glück)...... 1 Replie(s)
Damian Qualshy was saying:
ZenBuu was saying: Damian Qualshy was saying: ZenBuu was saying: ap2007 was saying: Old kai is saying if they leave broly where he is with the barrier cracking he would likely still finish the destroying process which would will everything so they would have to put broly back in the living side because the damage to the barrier isn't a bad there .... just a guess , whole plan is foolish if attacking would cause dimensional damage they shoulda just dropped broly in hell and left or Supreme kibito Kai coulda sacrificed self and took broly into a sun
When Buu, Gotenks and Piccolo can Kiai their way out of the HTC, surely Broly can do the same out of HFIL.
And dropping Broly into a sun? What will happen then? Will Broly die from laughing too much, because the sun tickles him? :D
Did you seriously forget that this Broly tanked a freaking black hole in the last U20 special? A sun won't do shit to him. But that's just how OP Salagir made him, wether you like it or not (I hate it personally).
No, he can't, because HTC is not the same as Otherworld or the Kaioshin's planet
And yeah, if Broly survived a supermassive black hole, then doing anything to him is pointless. They're just wasting time and lives.
Please read Sayazur's comment from the last page again. I didn't made that up, that's just his vision.
Which contradicts the source material... just because. We went over this last page.
You shouldn't change the already built world to fit your story, you need to write the story to fit the world. And I don't want to hear a thing about headcanon, because it doesn't work like that.
When Buu, Gotenks and Piccolo can Kiai their way out of the HTC, surely Broly can do the same out of HFIL.
And dropping Broly into a sun? What will happen then? Will Broly die from laughing too much, because the sun tickles him? :D
Did you seriously forget that this Broly tanked a freaking black hole in the last U20 special? A sun won't do shit to him. But that's just how OP Salagir made him, wether you like it or not (I hate it personally).
No, he can't, because HTC is not the same as Otherworld or the Kaioshin's planet
And yeah, if Broly survived a supermassive black hole, then doing anything to him is pointless. They're just wasting time and lives.
Please read Sayazur's comment from the last page again. I didn't made that up, that's just his vision.
Which contradicts the source material... just because. We went over this last page.
You shouldn't change the already built world to fit your story, you need to write the story to fit the world. And I don't want to hear a thing about headcanon, because it doesn't work like that.
So don't argue with me about that then? This is not my opinion, I just repeated what Sayazur had in mind for this comic. Saying headcanon doesn't work like that, disregards a lot of plot points of DBM too then. Salagir has his own vision of the DB universe and adapted some stuff to fit his narrative and this comic is based on it (while not being canon to DBM!). It's just that some subjects in DB weren't really explained in depth, which is actually not a bad thing in my opinion. But sure, you are free to disagree with that of course. In the end you probably have your own headcanon of things too.
Personally, I take whatever the author gives us here, whether I agree or disagree with that is a different story. But I don't tell the author how to write his story. 1 Replie(s)
Damian Qualshy was saying:
ZenBuu was saying: ap2007 was saying: Old kai is saying if they leave broly where he is with the barrier cracking he would likely still finish the destroying process which would will everything so they would have to put broly back in the living side because the damage to the barrier isn't a bad there .... just a guess , whole plan is foolish if attacking would cause dimensional damage they shoulda just dropped broly in hell and left or Supreme kibito Kai coulda sacrificed self and took broly into a sun
When Buu, Gotenks and Piccolo can Kiai their way out of the HTC, surely Broly can do the same out of HFIL.
And dropping Broly into a sun? What will happen then? Will Broly die from laughing too much, because the sun tickles him? :D
Did you seriously forget that this Broly tanked a freaking black hole in the last U20 special? A sun won't do shit to him. But that's just how OP Salagir made him, wether you like it or not (I hate it personally).
No, he can't, because HTC is not the same as Otherworld or the Kaioshin's planet
And yeah, if Broly survived a supermassive black hole, then doing anything to him is pointless. They're just wasting time and lives.
When Buu, Gotenks and Piccolo can Kiai their way out of the HTC, surely Broly can do the same out of HFIL.
And dropping Broly into a sun? What will happen then? Will Broly die from laughing too much, because the sun tickles him? :D
Did you seriously forget that this Broly tanked a freaking black hole in the last U20 special? A sun won't do shit to him. But that's just how OP Salagir made him, wether you like it or not (I hate it personally).
No, he can't, because HTC is not the same as Otherworld or the Kaioshin's planet
And yeah, if Broly survived a supermassive black hole, then doing anything to him is pointless. They're just wasting time and lives.
Please read Sayazur's comment from the last page again. I didn't made that up, that's just his vision. 1 Replie(s)
JetMalakai was saying:
Explain to someone who knows nothing about visual art: why is Bra's hair blue here?
Her hair is still purple, but there is just a blue filter over the last panel, because they are in deep space and for the dramatic effect. Also she just transforms back.
You can see that the shading on her gloves also have a blue touch when you compare it to the other panels, it's just that the filter affects her hair more than the other colors. For example Gohan's hair in panel 3 also looks slightly different.
kcheeb was saying:
What's koopa sennin asking I don't get it
He asks if Mrs. Papa is a virgin, in context to page 80. That's literally the joke of this whole page. ^^
ap2007 was saying:
Old kai is saying if they leave broly where he is with the barrier cracking he would likely still finish the destroying process which would will everything so they would have to put broly back in the living side because the damage to the barrier isn't a bad there .... just a guess , whole plan is foolish if attacking would cause dimensional damage they shoulda just dropped broly in hell and left or Supreme kibito Kai coulda sacrificed self and took broly into a sun
When Buu, Gotenks and Piccolo can Kiai their way out of the HTC, surely Broly can do the same out of HFIL.
And dropping Broly into a sun? What will happen then? Will Broly die from laughing too much, because the sun tickles him? :D
Did you seriously forget that this Broly tanked a freaking black hole in the last U20 special? A sun won't do shit to him. But that's just how OP Salagir made him, wether you like it or not (I hate it personally). 1 Replie(s)
yaosers was saying:
Sorry, I couldn't really tell who it was that said "We're almost there..."? Was it Vegeta?
That is Gohan, who everyone thought got insta killed by Broly...Vegeta is still in SSJ3.
Why he appears just now, is a riddle to me honestly.
Also why isn't Nappa wearing his armor anymore or only a part of it? Which looks super weird, I always thought that the armor on the legs is part of the whole armor? Pretty sure Broly didn't hit him, otherwise he would be dead already. Maybe the characters in this comic just like to strip off screen, out of desperation? First Cold, now Nappa. Who's next? Piccolo? Raditz? Buu? XD
And I think what Nappa says also sounds a little bit off. Something like "God damn it, you just don't want to die, huh?!" Would sound a little bit better in my opinion.
PurpleAqua was saying:
Gast sagte: Also, entweder geht Ghast jetzt all in, oder das war es. Denke er hat noch lange nicht gezeigt wozu er körperlich (also Kräftemäßig) in der Lage ist. Oder ich habe ihn kolossal überschätzt.
Auch möglich: Ghast verliert, Bra dreht durch, ihr Universum soll nach Hause geschickt werden und deshalb rastet Vegetto aus.
Ach, ich liebe diese Spekulationen.
Nach allem was bis jetzt in DBM passiert ist sollte Ghast so stark sein wie Goku als SSJ 3 am Anfang der Buu Saga. Dementsprechend ist es logisch das Janemba stärker ist. Für den weiteren Verlauf der Geschichte kann es leider auch nur Sinn machen das Ghast in diesem Kampf stirbt und somit beim Vegetto Ausraster nicht dabei sein wird. Da dieses Event in der nächsten Sekunde vorbei wäre mit Ghasts hilfe. Bra wird aber mit 100% Sicherheit nicht Ausrasten. Sonst wäre der Kamof gegen Sie und die daraus gewonnene Erkenntnis komplett sinnlos gewesen. Ich gehe davon aus Vegettos Ausraster erst am Ende passiert also nachdem Finale. Goku gewinnt das Turnier und kurz vor dem Happy End wenn alle Wünsche geäußert werden sollen. Und Vegettos Wunsch zu kämpfen weiterhin ignoriert wird. Steigt seine Frustration so sehr das er Polunga tötet oder droht zu töten und somit den Wunsch an Universum 19 als Geisel hält bis er Zufrieden ist. Oder Vegetto wird versuchen einen Wunsch zu äußern und bevor er erfüllt wird schalten die Namekianer die Dragonballs schnell wieder ab das dann zum Ausraster führt.
Auch möglich: Ghast verliert, Bra dreht durch, ihr Universum soll nach Hause geschickt werden und deshalb rastet Vegetto aus.
Ach, ich liebe diese Spekulationen.
Nach allem was bis jetzt in DBM passiert ist sollte Ghast so stark sein wie Goku als SSJ 3 am Anfang der Buu Saga. Dementsprechend ist es logisch das Janemba stärker ist. Für den weiteren Verlauf der Geschichte kann es leider auch nur Sinn machen das Ghast in diesem Kampf stirbt und somit beim Vegetto Ausraster nicht dabei sein wird. Da dieses Event in der nächsten Sekunde vorbei wäre mit Ghasts hilfe. Bra wird aber mit 100% Sicherheit nicht Ausrasten. Sonst wäre der Kamof gegen Sie und die daraus gewonnene Erkenntnis komplett sinnlos gewesen. Ich gehe davon aus Vegettos Ausraster erst am Ende passiert also nachdem Finale. Goku gewinnt das Turnier und kurz vor dem Happy End wenn alle Wünsche geäußert werden sollen. Und Vegettos Wunsch zu kämpfen weiterhin ignoriert wird. Steigt seine Frustration so sehr das er Polunga tötet oder droht zu töten und somit den Wunsch an Universum 19 als Geisel hält bis er Zufrieden ist. Oder Vegetto wird versuchen einen Wunsch zu äußern und bevor er erfüllt wird schalten die Namekianer die Dragonballs schnell wieder ab das dann zum Ausraster führt.
Ich stimme zwar zu, dass Gast für das Finale verschwinden muss, aber wird derselbe Trick bei Vegetto wirklich 2x klappen? Goku hat diese "Sticky-clone" Technik von Bra nur einmal gesehen und er war in der Lage, sie sofort zu kontern gegen Uub.
Außerdem hat Vegetto selber DBs in seinem Universum, warum sollte er einen Wunsch brauchen? 1 Replie(s)
DrewSaga was saying:
CyberSaturn was saying: I bet Vegetto wants to learn this technique real bad
Vegetto and Bra funny enough actually have a similar technique. We saw Majin Bra use it on Cell when she brutally split Cell in half with that kick. Bra also used a similar technique on Cold/Ginyu.
Vegetto and Bra funny enough actually have a similar technique. We saw Majin Bra use it on Cell when she brutally split Cell in half with that kick. Bra also used a similar technique on Cold/Ginyu.
But that didn't block any magic. Also, we've never seen Vegetto use this technique (yet?), although obviously he should be able to do it too, when Bra can do it.
@Delphince how many times will you keep posting the same comment, over and over again until you notice something? This falls under rule #14. Your initial comment was already leading to an off topic discussion, because someone answered it... That's why it gets deleted. Please think for a second what you post here.
DBMultiverse Special OAV - Broly Final War page 31
mAc Chaos was saying:
you dont even need this "ice frontier", beerus and gokus punches in super were already threatening to destroy the entire universe 7, heaven and all
Good thing this is not DBS then, it would make this whole comic into a parody. ;P
Shabby was saying:
@Zen, and everyone really
It's not impossible that a good plan wins here. This doesn't have to stay U20.
Maybe in DBM U20, they didn't pick this fight. "Lived" forever.
But also, people know to expect defeat here. No one, or very few, would have been disappointed at a good plan that failed.
It's not impossible that a good plan wins here. This doesn't have to stay U20.
Maybe in DBM U20, they didn't pick this fight. "Lived" forever.
But also, people know to expect defeat here. No one, or very few, would have been disappointed at a good plan that failed.
But this is about U20? Do you make up your own story now? :D
And to your last sentence...
You severely underestimate how crazy this community can get over very minimalistic stuff and I'm not only talking about this comic in particular, mainly about the DBM main comic. I've seen people here going to extreme lengths just to hate, creating forums or discord servers with the sole purpose to hate on DBM. They visit other websites just to insult the author and his work, even to the point where people were throwing around death threats towards the authors, artists and even us mods in this comment section on our website here... the days with the Majin Son Bra arc were absolutely insane what some people did there.
That's why I think it's funny that people try to accuse us mods to be "full time bouncers" that shut down ANY criticism on this website, while we are apparently also trying to ruin the fun for every reader here. Which is absolutely hilarious when you just take a minute to read every comment here that was NOT deleted. You don't see every comment here, we do. And I can tell you that I'm still pretty nice for a moderator, other people would just really do what we were accused of. ;)
Damian Qualshy was saying:
I mean, they were smart a bunch of times... That's why they usually won.
Now I'm interested how smart they were "a bunch of times" to defeat an enemy. Please elaborate on this, I'm all ears. And please do not forget to mention the 4d chess death note style tactics that were also mentioned in the comments here. :D
Listen, if you read my comments carefully, you would notice that I'm not a big fan of this story either. I'm just saying, do not be rude to the author. I'm not calling anybody out now, just in general. People will always be disappointed in stuff or will have a different vision of how things play out, that's normal. But as I said, some people overstep a line while doing that. Then it's not "criticism" anymore, it's well disguised insults. Period
Shabby was saying:
@ZenBuu
in-story this is a continuation of U20 where MegaBuu was defeated. This may not be canon to DBM, but this plays off DBM's canon.
I just want them to put their best strategy forward, and they came at this with no strategy. They intentionally picked this fight with no strategy.
Summon Porunga and wish for potara earrings. Wish for two or three pairs (Piccolo plus Gohan),
Build-A-Buu again, but better.
Use Kai Magic, Babidi magic, Dabura.
Spend a year gathering a heavenly spirit bomb.
Teach everyone, even the bad guys, fusion dance. After you win, wish the bad guys forgot the fight and the technique.
It's like... dark stories are fun, depressing stories are not.
in-story this is a continuation of U20 where MegaBuu was defeated. This may not be canon to DBM, but this plays off DBM's canon.
I just want them to put their best strategy forward, and they came at this with no strategy. They intentionally picked this fight with no strategy.
Summon Porunga and wish for potara earrings. Wish for two or three pairs (Piccolo plus Gohan),
Build-A-Buu again, but better.
Use Kai Magic, Babidi magic, Dabura.
Spend a year gathering a heavenly spirit bomb.
Teach everyone, even the bad guys, fusion dance. After you win, wish the bad guys forgot the fight and the technique.
It's like... dark stories are fun, depressing stories are not.
None of this really matters in the end, since we all know they will fail to some extent anyway. But! Broly appeared in an iceblock at the tournament, so they kind of managed to at least neutralize him somehow.
So even if they have a super smart plan to really beat Broly and still fail, like it kinda already happened with the absurd "Broly-tanks-a-fucking-blackhole-special", people would be even more upset that it doesn't make much sense. This was already to me one of the worst parts ever in DBM history and I barely complain. That's why I personally think the whole reason to even do this special here is unnecessary. But that's just my opinion. I still respect Sayazur and his work a lot. :)
Don't forget all this is still free to read and nobody forces you to read it anyway. :D
twitch.tv/reileo was saying:
IMO they could just:
Wish 2 - Give Goku the ability to create the Spirit Bomb instantly, just like Frieza could charge his Supernova in a matter of seconds. Grant Goku the same ability.
Wish 3 - Make it impossible for any type of transformation to occur in hell.
Done, Broly would revert to his normal form (along with everyone else), BUT Goku would still be able to charge the Spirit Bomb in seconds (he doesn’t need Super Saiyan for it) and throw it at base form Broly. GG, it’s over.
Wish 2 - Give Goku the ability to create the Spirit Bomb instantly, just like Frieza could charge his Supernova in a matter of seconds. Grant Goku the same ability.
Wish 3 - Make it impossible for any type of transformation to occur in hell.
Done, Broly would revert to his normal form (along with everyone else), BUT Goku would still be able to charge the Spirit Bomb in seconds (he doesn’t need Super Saiyan for it) and throw it at base form Broly. GG, it’s over.
I seriously doubt that would be possible tbh. 2 Replie(s)
Shabby was saying:
we're just watching them die, not from ego but of their pure stupidity.
Also, there's no way that SS3s are making Broly put in effort. That defies DBM canon.
SS2 Vegito barely made him care, and he's at least 100x stronger, since base is already much stronger than MG and SS3
Also, there's no way that SS3s are making Broly put in effort. That defies DBM canon.
SS2 Vegito barely made him care, and he's at least 100x stronger, since base is already much stronger than MG and SS3
But you do realize, that Salagir nor Sayazur have ever claimed that this story here is canon to DBM? This is only Sayazur's view of how things would've played out on a 4th meeting. Like it was already explained at the very first page of this comic...
If all of this story is really necessary? I don't know. I'm personally not a big fan of Broly, so I don't really care much what happens here.
All of you guys take this whole side story waaaay too seriously. It's just a fun side story Sayazur wanted to create. Yes, they can act smarter, sure. But this is DB, not Death Note where they play 4d chess. When did characters ever acted like super super smart? This is the same case, when people complained why they didn't use the DB everytime to beat an enemy by wishing them into a sun or some stuff like this. The amount of hate this comic gets here is insane. 1 Replie(s)
Ich übersetze euch mal wieder einen Kommentar von Sayazur:
"Okay, ich schätze, jetzt braucht ihr eine größere, konzeptionelle Erklärung.
So sehe ICH das Jenseits in DB:
Für mich ist es eine Paralleldimension (wie der RvGuZ), aber in einem viel größeren Maßstab, womit verhindert wird, dass es für die Lebenden zugänglich ist.
Diese Dimension ist vollständig von 3 sphärischen Schichten umgeben:
— Das Universum selbst, dessen Zweck es ist, es zu isolieren und für Sterbliche unzugänglich zu machen.
— Eine enorme, sphärische Grenze aus magischem Eis, die die verstorbenen Seelen in gutem Zustand hält; das Jenseits ist ein Ort, an dem es kalt genug ist.
— Wolken, um dem Ort einen Hauch von Stil zu verleihen und um die riesige, nicht gerade einladende Eisgrenze zu verbergen.
Die Eisgrenze ist die wichtigste. Wenn sie zerstört wird, gäbe es ein Leck zwischen dem Universum und dem Jenseits, als würde man einen Silikon Korken entfernen, der einen Wassertank von einem Stromkreis trennt." 1 Replie(s)
DBMultiverse Special OAV - Broly Final War page 31
"Okay, ich schätze, jetzt braucht ihr eine größere, konzeptionelle Erklärung.
So sehe ICH das Jenseits in DB:
Für mich ist es eine Paralleldimension (wie der RvGuZ), aber in einem viel größeren Maßstab, womit verhindert wird, dass es für die Lebenden zugänglich ist.
Diese Dimension ist vollständig von 3 sphärischen Schichten umgeben:
— Das Universum selbst, dessen Zweck es ist, es zu isolieren und für Sterbliche unzugänglich zu machen.
— Eine enorme, sphärische Grenze aus magischem Eis, die die verstorbenen Seelen in gutem Zustand hält; das Jenseits ist ein Ort, an dem es kalt genug ist.
— Wolken, um dem Ort einen Hauch von Stil zu verleihen und um die riesige, nicht gerade einladende Eisgrenze zu verbergen.
Die Eisgrenze ist die wichtigste. Wenn sie zerstört wird, gäbe es ein Leck zwischen dem Universum und dem Jenseits, als würde man einen Silikon Korken entfernen, der einen Wassertank von einem Stromkreis trennt." 1 Replie(s)
youcef was saying:
ZenBuu was saying: I like the "REGEN" sound effect lol
Well, what will you do next now, Gast...?
youcef was saying: XXI probably made Janemba better, this is high IQ stuff lmao
Pretty sure that XXI controls Janemba. Just like Piccolo said on page 2387.
Piccolo says he listens to XXI, nothing else
Well, what will you do next now, Gast...?
youcef was saying: XXI probably made Janemba better, this is high IQ stuff lmao
Pretty sure that XXI controls Janemba. Just like Piccolo said on page 2387.
Piccolo says he listens to XXI, nothing else
Which means, XXI has at least some control over him, right? Why doesn't Janemba attack the audience, or even XXI himself? Janemba clearly protected XXI with the portals on page 2388. Also XXI is very calculating, always trying to find the biggest weakness for his opponents and he never wants to take any risks (page 2110). If he hasn't any sort of control over him, it would be OOC for XXI, at least judging by the little we know from him so far.
And even if not, you think it's too far fetched that XXI made Janemba more intelligent/strategic? Afterall he created him here. Though, then it's again weird that Janemba doesn't seem to be able to speak, huh? ^^
I just seriously hope that this Janemba doesn't have the weakness by getting insulted. That would be really disappointing here for me tbh. 1 Replie(s)
Ryuzaki_Doragon was saying:
Dragetto sagte: Ich freue mich schon auf den Moment, in dem Gast Beleidigungen für sich entdeckt :D
Wäre Hammer geil, wie er einmal flucht und janemba darauf reagiert. XD was da für Sprüche kommen könnten?
Wäre Hammer geil, wie er einmal flucht und janemba darauf reagiert. XD was da für Sprüche kommen könnten?
Dem muss ich leider widersprechen. Würde ich total unpassend und langweilig finden, wenn Gast ihn so besiegt, bzw einen Vorteil davon bekommt. Außerdem flucht Gast nicht. Das passt einfach nicht. 1 Replie(s)
I like the "REGEN" sound effect lol
Well, what will you do next now, Gast...?
Pretty sure that XXI controls Janemba. Just like Piccolo said on page 2387. 1 Replie(s)
DB Multiverse page 2404
Well, what will you do next now, Gast...?
youcef was saying:
XXI probably made Janemba better, this is high IQ stuff lmao
Pretty sure that XXI controls Janemba. Just like Piccolo said on page 2387. 1 Replie(s)
Gridlock was saying:
So anyway, Daima is of to a great start, with yesterdays first episode!
That's off topic here.
Immerhin sind Gast und Thorn ja auch außerirdische Eindringlinge auf der Erde. Ist schon verständlich, dass er diplomatisch bleiben will.