Can we take a moment to appreciate DBM? No, seriously! Goku vs Vegeta is the ground where DBZ fundamentals were established. Salagir gets so much hateful comments about his writing ability and how he and DBM are just being carried by great artists. I made some hateful comments too in the Bra rampage. So now I want to take this opportunity to give my modest but very well deserved recognition to Salagir and the DBM team.
Salagir understands DBZ quite well and better than Toriyama himself. He used previous concepts like Namekian merging and made an entire plotline around it. He kept SSJ forms simple and nerfed SSJ3 for this very reason. He found a better explanation for Vegetto’s de-merging inside Buu. He used Kaioken, a fan favorite, as a means to keep humans (and Uub) somewhat relevant, and because it was completely unused for no reason in the main series. He was clever enough to not use multipliers because it’s healthier for the balancing of power tiers. This way we know Maximum Kaioken Uub is SSJ3 tier. What’s the multiplier? Doesn’t matter! For all this evidence I’m 100% sure Salagir came with the idea of this Ultimate Form (or whatever it’s called) himself and not after watching DB Super. The idea behind the form is much more organic than DB Super. It’s just Mystic Gohan tier without the old kai’s ritual. SIMPLE. Just like when Gohan unlocked SSJ2 and they followed up after.
I repeat, Salagir understands DBZ better than Toriyama. And you might say “Uh? So what? That’s no big deal”. But the reality is that DBM isn’t like any other fanfic where they commit the capital sin of shonen: “the power creep”. Salagir knows power creep is a problem so he quickly nerfs or deus-exes things that may get out of hand. That’s why Broly and Buu had to leave. So why introduce them in the first place? you say. Because he also wants to have fun with his project and go wild telling some “what if” scenarios. But ultimately he has a bigger plot that wants to get done with as little power creep as possible. Want evidence? Look no further than DB AF, the progenitor of DB fanfics. SSJ 5 was the big Hook! Why? Because even Toyotarou himself struggles to create a proper setting without power creep. What’s different is that this new form isn’t beyond Vegetto, Bra or Ghast. And yet it’s still a novelty. Salagir found a hole for creativity without disrupting all power balance. Look at Big Baddie XXI. He’s not super powerful as far as we’ve seen, he just uses clever tactics to exploit weaknesses.
“The official release” in a couple of years made Red SSJ, then Blue, then Rose, then UI Omen, then mastered UI, Ultra Ego, Orange Piccolo, Beast Gohan. So many colors and so little meaning!. They actively made their previous forms obsolete because they are the real amateurs who only know to escalate via power creep every arc in a cash grabbing rampage releasing as many hair colors as they can to sell toys completely disregarding any power balancing. And don’t even get me started with artstyle. Modern anime artstyle just doesn’t fit DB. Period.
I want to finish by stating it’s no accident we all spent more than a decade getting involved reading this fanfic. DBM has quality and thought behind its plotlines. Sure, it has some flaws. But flawed as it is, it kept along with other fan projects the DBZ flame alive for more than a decade when the only thing we got was that awful 2008 special. If it wasn’t for passionate projects like this one who knows if we’d had a running “official release” series today.
So thank you Salagir, Asura, Gogeta Jr. and all DBM team.
That's a bit of a stretch to say that Salagir and the team understand Dragon Ball more than Toriyama. I mean I get the respect to the team and I admire them for their work, but that's a bit much too say. That said, I will comment on something you mentioned about the power creep and the previous forms. The colors and forms each have their meaning. They're not just a simple color change. In and of themselves they're a stage of power that compared to content before, they're a whole different world. Which for the DBM team, it makes sense as to why they don't use them because they want to keep everyone relative to one another. But saying there's exactly a balance for the characters in the story, I don't agree with especially considering when you see what they did with Z Broly in his timeline that he comes from and of course Super Buu and XI. Super Buu was so unbalanced that they had to send him back to his timeline because no one could defeat him. And Broly pretty much was the same case which he really shouldn't be that strong considering he's weaker than Vegito. But now you have Goku and Vegeta who for some reason now for the sake of the story are pretty much seeming to be stronger than what Vegito is capable of despite that not being indicated at the beginning of the story. There are a few elements in the story which don't really make a lot of sense, but that's how Fan Mangas and Fanfics go.
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Salagir understands DBZ quite well and better than Toriyama himself. He used previous concepts like Namekian merging and made an entire plotline around it. He kept SSJ forms simple and nerfed SSJ3 for this very reason. He found a better explanation for Vegetto’s de-merging inside Buu. He used Kaioken, a fan favorite, as a means to keep humans (and Uub) somewhat relevant, and because it was completely unused for no reason in the main series. He was clever enough to not use multipliers because it’s healthier for the balancing of power tiers. This way we know Maximum Kaioken Uub is SSJ3 tier. What’s the multiplier? Doesn’t matter! For all this evidence I’m 100% sure Salagir came with the idea of this Ultimate Form (or whatever it’s called) himself and not after watching DB Super. The idea behind the form is much more organic than DB Super. It’s just Mystic Gohan tier without the old kai’s ritual. SIMPLE. Just like when Gohan unlocked SSJ2 and they followed up after.
I repeat, Salagir understands DBZ better than Toriyama. And you might say “Uh? So what? That’s no big deal”. But the reality is that DBM isn’t like any other fanfic where they commit the capital sin of shonen: “the power creep”. Salagir knows power creep is a problem so he quickly nerfs or deus-exes things that may get out of hand. That’s why Broly and Buu had to leave. So why introduce them in the first place? you say. Because he also wants to have fun with his project and go wild telling some “what if” scenarios. But ultimately he has a bigger plot that wants to get done with as little power creep as possible. Want evidence? Look no further than DB AF, the progenitor of DB fanfics. SSJ 5 was the big Hook! Why? Because even Toyotarou himself struggles to create a proper setting without power creep. What’s different is that this new form isn’t beyond Vegetto, Bra or Ghast. And yet it’s still a novelty. Salagir found a hole for creativity without disrupting all power balance. Look at Big Baddie XXI. He’s not super powerful as far as we’ve seen, he just uses clever tactics to exploit weaknesses.
“The official release” in a couple of years made Red SSJ, then Blue, then Rose, then UI Omen, then mastered UI, Ultra Ego, Orange Piccolo, Beast Gohan. So many colors and so little meaning!. They actively made their previous forms obsolete because they are the real amateurs who only know to escalate via power creep every arc in a cash grabbing rampage releasing as many hair colors as they can to sell toys completely disregarding any power balancing. And don’t even get me started with artstyle. Modern anime artstyle just doesn’t fit DB. Period.
I want to finish by stating it’s no accident we all spent more than a decade getting involved reading this fanfic. DBM has quality and thought behind its plotlines. Sure, it has some flaws. But flawed as it is, it kept along with other fan projects the DBZ flame alive for more than a decade when the only thing we got was that awful 2008 special. If it wasn’t for passionate projects like this one who knows if we’d had a running “official release” series today.
So thank you Salagir, Asura, Gogeta Jr. and all DBM team.
That's a bit of a stretch to say that Salagir and the team understand Dragon Ball more than Toriyama. I mean I get the respect to the team and I admire them for their work, but that's a bit much too say. That said, I will comment on something you mentioned about the power creep and the previous forms. The colors and forms each have their meaning. They're not just a simple color change. In and of themselves they're a stage of power that compared to content before, they're a whole different world. Which for the DBM team, it makes sense as to why they don't use them because they want to keep everyone relative to one another. But saying there's exactly a balance for the characters in the story, I don't agree with especially considering when you see what they did with Z Broly in his timeline that he comes from and of course Super Buu and XI. Super Buu was so unbalanced that they had to send him back to his timeline because no one could defeat him. And Broly pretty much was the same case which he really shouldn't be that strong considering he's weaker than Vegito. But now you have Goku and Vegeta who for some reason now for the sake of the story are pretty much seeming to be stronger than what Vegito is capable of despite that not being indicated at the beginning of the story. There are a few elements in the story which don't really make a lot of sense, but that's how Fan Mangas and Fanfics go.