Why is Vegetto so happy all of a sudden, he must enjoyed this fight then?

For anyone wondering about the tier list on the last post according to multiverse
Under normal circumstances a ssj cannot beat a ssj2 and a ssj2 cannot beat a ssj3 and a ssj3 cannot beat a mystic gohan type character the rare exception being bra and vegetto the former having power greater than mystic gohan in ssj2 and vegetto having power great than Mystic gohan in ssj1 and maybe base

If you use vegetto as a reference for power scaling
Base-Ssj bra and Mystic gohan
Ssj-Ssj2 bra and Ghast
Ssj2- Zen Buu and Broly
Ssj3-vegetto being the strongest in raw power

Personally I am not a fan of the multiverse tiers but whatever

عمار was saying: Uub: You deserve to win, Master.

Goku: No, Uub, You deserve to win.

Goku & Uub:...No! I deserve to you!

Pretty much sums up the narrative of how this story is going.
I'm quite disappointed in how Goku has been portrayed here. SSJ3 was his max output here. New tricks or not, his stamina should NOT be this depleted.
Reincarnated or not, Uub is only Human.
This is ridiculous. SMH :(

Now that I see this Ultra Buu... Why the heck didn't the Piccolos from U16 and U18 think about it when they were fighting Majin Bra? Buu with Cell and 2 Gohans and the armor of Heliors could give a hell of a challenge to SSJ2 Bra.

BrutaleBent was saying: I fucking hate this version of Broly in DBMV. The Broly wank is too great in this series - it's my only truly sore spot in an otherwise really good fanmade manga.

It should be as it was originally - a far more powerful SSJ1, but still not SSJ2 level. "Invulnerable and unlimited growing ki just because", fuck that shit.

Honestly man, that's fair. Vegito vs Broly was cool but it's another example of the absolute B.S that is the legendary super saiyan in this series. He survived an SSJ3 Final Flash + Dragon Fist combo from Vegtio without even falling out of his transformation.

The buu saga cast is screwed...
(Just because Salagir wanted to jerk off to his big bad broly fucking everyone up. This is rude, but it is true in my opinion)

cow was saying: That wasn't ultimate gohan. Ultimate gohan has a strand of hair that goes down his face. That's just base gohan.

Maybe an art mistake. It's very stupid to come at Broly with less than your best.

imzy was saying: In actual dragon ball ssj3 goku would've been more than enough for lssj broly let alone ultimate gohan
i really wished this happened in u18 and 16 but instead they actually beat broly but in this universe they couldn't

I don't, it would spoil some of the course of the fight. Broly's second coming was the divergent point.

Also, if Broly showed up against SS3 Goku in Canon-Z, it would have also been written that it took everything they had. That's how Broly works. SS3 would not have finished him alone.

I fucking hate this version of Broly in DBMV. The Broly wank is too great in this series - it's my only truly sore spot in an otherwise really good fanmade manga.

It should be as it was originally - a far more powerful SSJ1, but still not SSJ2 level. "Invulnerable and unlimited growing ki just because", fuck that shit.

So that's where Bardock's vision will come true. As suggested on the cover, Goku, Vegeta and Gohan will meet Broly. Then Goku and Vegeta will fuse into Vegetto, but he'll be very pissed that everything's been ruined, so he will grab Gohan by the neck and shout "I'll kill you all if I have to!!", I'm telling you guys, that's exactly what's about to happen, very very soon.

imzy was saying: This panel so cool
Ima imagine this also happens in universe 16 and 18 but they actually beat Broly but this timeline they werent able to

No this didn't happen in universe 16 nor 18. This is the universe were the heroes didnt aim right at the sun. Broly died in the sun in universe 16 and 18. In universe 20 he is the winner.

But there are possible universes not invited by the vargas where Vegito had to face Broly, or Goku, Vegeta and Gohan found a way te defeat him. Maybe there is a universe were Goku and Vegeta used the fusion dance to become Gogeta (how ironic that this is actually canon). Maybe there is a universe were Goku perfomed a universal Spirit bomb and killed Broly? There a lot of possibility's. This is just one of the unlucky universes.

Bra should have gone with them.

Love how everybody calls Son Bra a mary sue, but nobody calls Zen Boo a gary stu.

Also, lol at the people STILL expecting "Bardock's visions" to happen...Ghast and Zen Boo can turn Vegetto into dust with a mere though, you still think Vegetto is in condition to threat anyone?

imzy was saying: wow wow what an ending a crap 0 consequence ending

First time reading Dragon Ball?

I agree. Let's skip the family drama and go back and get the dragon balls. Maybe both Gohan's and Piccolo's will have something to say to Bra

Since when is Gotenks the mature one of the group? Forget about Bra, THIS is character development!!

imzy was saying: where can i find this tier list?

A comment by Salagir on page 278

Near the bottom of the previous page's comments, Ashanark linked a great list of all comments by Salagir

Gast being comparable to SSJ3 is from his fight with Ghost Vegeta, and Ashanark's link says Salagir confirmed it in an email or something like that

Ashanark was saying: Fun fact: on page 1796, Salagir described Vegito as "a perfect master of his body and emotions".


Just another entry on the list of retcons made to favour Bra.

"Base saiyans can never surpass a Super Saiyan" unless you're Bra
"Vegetto is superior to Bra is all forms" but he seemingly defaults to using SSJ3 against her SSJ2
SSJ2 Bra is comparable to SSJ1 vegett-- Actually nevermind she could beat him easily. This is after a statement that Bra won't get any Zenkais in DBM


Just like Gast - who was supposedly inexperienced SSJ3 tier - is apparently about to be retconned to be strong enoug to stop Enraged SSJ3 Vegetto to save Bra.

Honestly, the Bra favoritism is ridiculous. I also can't help but notice how only one person (Super Gojita 3. Thank you for taking the time to reply!) actually tried to answer my questions for Bra's defenders last page, and even that was simply "we'll never know." (Though I think we already know from Bra's last thought before screaming and breaking the Majin seal)

Nobody can stop Vegetto now that he is a SSJ3. Not even Zen Buu. Rip Bra.

Edit: Looks like Gast is behind Vegetto. And what chance does he think he has lol. He was almost decimated by U3 Broly and Hatchiyak.

Nobody can stop Vegetto now that he is a SSJ3. Not even Zen Buu. Rip Bra.

Edit: Looks like Gast is behind Vegetto. And what chance does he think he has lol. He was almost decimated by U3 Broly and Hatchiyak.

Not much to say; this is basically the page I was expecting. Could be interesting if Vegeta is the first to defend her, since Vegetto just attacked a mirror image of his baby girl. I can't wait to see the embarrassing lengths some people will go to argue that Vegetto did nothing wrong here.

Since there's not much else to discuss with this page, I am working on rebuilding the power pyramid that got deleted from DBM Wiki years ago. Here's the prototype:

“Mastered” SSJ1 Tier: Majin Freeza, Majin Coola, First Cell Jr., Piccolo, Dabra, Super Bojack, Perfect Cell (DBZ), SSJ Kakarotto

SSJ2 Tier: Mastered Super Trunks, Base Son Bra, Cold, Revived Cell (DBZ), Second Cell Jr., SSJ2 Emperor Vegeta, SSJ Ozaru Kakarotto, SSJ2 Majin Kakarotto

SSJ3 Tier: SSJ3 Emperor Vegeta, Fat Buu, Southern Kaioshin, Uub Max Kaioken, SSJ3 Goku (DBZ), Kid Buu, Hildegan, SSJ3 Young Gotenks, Base Super Buu

In-Between Tier: Majin Cell, Mystic Gohan, SSJ3 Adult Gotenks, Base Vegetto, SSJ Son Bra

SSJ4 Tier: Buu-Gotenks, Buu-Gohan

SSJ5 Tier: SSJ3 Mastered Adult Gotenks, SSJ2 Son Bra, SSJ Vegetto

SSJ6 Tier: SSJ2 Vegetto, Broly U20 at the end

SSJ7 Tier: SSJ3 Vegetto

Too vague: Broly U3, Hatchiyack, Majin C-17, Majin Cold
Yet to be seen: Goku, Vegeta, Gast, Zen Buu

Most of this is self-explanatory. Left to right is weakest to strongest within tiers, but some are basically interchangeable and their order doesn't matter, like Bojack and Dabra or DBZ Cell and SSJ Kakarotto. I have yet to read all of the novel or pore over Salagir's statements for more information, but based on the manga alone, I think all of this is correct.