DrewSaga was saying: Problem is how Trunks deals with an immortal.

I don't know if this mirrors the anime 100%, but in addition to ssj rage shown here, the anime had trunks use the mafuuba.

if he gets a seal from roshi, or somewhere, he can seal zamasu like he did before, but better.

My man Salagir hold this for MORE THAN 10 years

Tien really shacked up, didn't he? Rather strange considering that he was a monk.
Oh, wait, right, Tambo's a different strip.

Unless Shin has learned since Buu and started training, uh oh.

베지트 오공으로써 인격이 완전히 소멸된건가 원래라면 와쿠와쿠 스루죠하며 좋아해야 정상아닌가 나중에 합체 풀리는거 버독예언에
(손부라앞에서 베지터가모두에게 사과하는 장면)나오던데 그때 오공 모습은 어떠러나

Osha was saying: LSSJ4_Broly was saying: remember, you cant kill using the DB's, only revive
Not quite accurate. You cannot ask for wishes that are above the creator's magic power. When they tried to ask that about the Saiyans, Shenron said he couldn't because they were above Kami's power.

Correct. shenron stated that killing the saiyans specifically was no good "because they were stronger than kami who made the dragon balls, and exceeded shenrons power" not because killing was an impossibility.

more to the point, beings that are above shenron can't be impacted without consent, but the likes of the humans? oh yeah. they used shenron to wipe out humanitys memories.

thats why they call me, Roger smith the negotiator, to take care of problems in paradigm city and- oh wait, not ALL their memories. just the parts about fat buu.

never mind.

Static was saying: Yes, Gohan just killed someone...

In the part of the series where the Kamehameha literally never killed anyone.

The most used attack in the series that has only ever killed one character.

i remember 4 named Characters killed by goku useing it: Octopapa (red ribbon arc, DB), Tambourine (DB), Frieza (DBS, Golden Frieza), Copy Vegeta (DBS, not sure if it is filler)

DrewSaga was saying: Belsurs was saying: After being spoiled by the later fights (especially with Asura's work), it can be pretty easy to forget how short and simple a lot of the earlier fights were. I'm not complaining cuz we still got cool showcases like the Heliotes' tech, Kat and Syd, Raditz' eye lamps, and Vegito vs Broly; it's just that there was a lot of necessary weeding out to do. Well worth the wait, though, considering the great fights we'd end up getting later once the smallfry got tossed out.

We still got a couple of interesting matchups too in the first round like Cell vs Dabura, Vegetto vs Broly (as you mentioned), Videl vs King Cold (who turned out to be Ginyu later on but nobody knew at the time except maybe Salagir). I am trying to remember any other interesting 1st round fights. I guess Yamcha vs C18 because Yamcha reveals that he is C17. And a lot of those fights have rather obvious outcomes.
Oh yeah! Dabura vs Cell is also one of my favorite fights from the first round. I also had a lot of fun to color most of the fight, even though Cell's spots are a real pain to color. Yet, it turned out amazing, as you will see later in chapter 5/6! :-D

Why do I feel like Buu absorbed Bee before he died and gained the instincts and intelligence of him. Being immortal (age wise) Buu would be unable to die and regeneration would keep him alive. Cruelty from humans over three hundred years likely led him to becoming feral.

Final Solar Cannon was saying: So question, what is the last panel supposed to be?

Looks like someone grinning.

Yes, I know that, but the thing with Dragon Ball, is that, often, names have significations and this name too. For me, Muten is his first name and Roshi his last name.

In my first version, Mutaito called him "Muten" but I thought that it was better, he called him "Roshi", that is, for me, his name, not a title.

I wouldn't mind some chapters in this artstyle.

beeruz was saying: I'm confused if goku isn't declared the winner then when does vegito and u16/18 reactions take place.Also wasn't goku in the air when he knocked vegeta to the floor.

Considering Vegito already lost I don't know why he would rampage to Goku winning this fight (or the tournament, if that's what you mean).

Predictions:

Despite what everyone's saying, I wouldn't be surprised if Goku and Vegeta are stronger than Gohan, if not close to being as strong as Bra or even Vegito.

We've watched Gohan fight Cell, everyone watching and involved was able to keep up.

We watched Bra fight everyone, everyone she fought was able to keep up enough to at least strategize against her.

Not to mention we saw Broly vs Vegito, also another fight where everyone watching was in shock but, like the others, still was able to at least keep up with.

Here we have Goku vs Vegeta and the only people who were able to follow are Gohan, Vegito, and Bra, and all of them are shocked. If this Goku and Vegeta had to fight everyone the same way Bra did, you can't tell me that based off of what we're getting here that they wouldn't be able to completely blitz and destroy everyone involved before they could react.

Goku and Vegeta are having a whole fight that Piccolo can't even keep up with. When Bra fought everyone, Piccolo was outclassed but he was at least able to follow along enough to formulate strategies and counter attack.

At the very least if Gohan was as strong as these guys, his fight with Cell would've had the same effect as this one since Cell is equal to or greater than Gohan. Had Cell and Gohan been as strong or stronger than Goku and Vegeta, their fight would've been just as difficult if not harder to follow than this one.

Based off of all of that, my thoughts are that this new form puts our two favorite Saiyans ahead of the Gohan's and in the ballparks of Vegito and Bra.

My second prediction is that Vegeta gets up for a round 2 with Goku and Vegeta only using the orignal Super Saiyan forms. Needless to say, I hope I'm right lol.

I hope this comic can retcon the movies one big mistake. Cell Max had no personality at all. All of DBZ's canon villains had great personalities.

I would rather they have not remade Cell and made something else, since he was a mindless monster.

Are we sure we just "skipped the fight"? The way Goku's clothes are torn seems a bit odd, but he might've hit Vegeta so hard that that's just what it did to him, maybe... If last page really skipped to the end of the fight it'd just be strange, I think. I wouldn't expect Salagir to do that, but who knows.

Honestly, this is the best outcome. We don't really need to see a long drawn out fight between Goku and Vegeta. Its been done... twice in DBZ and once in DBS so this is the best use of that. They've made enormous strides in terms of power and skill. a play by play would just be more of the same. Well done! This page is AMAZING.

I like the idea. One thing I never quite understood was how much power gets wasted. It can't be THAT much right??? But somehow it's enough that just not wasting it makes them get astronomically more powerful. That means you have to be wasting more power than you actually get normally.

Hopefully it's not just DBM's version of Ultra Instinct. Meh, I always thought UI was just a bad Kenbun-shoku no Haki knockoff from One Piece anyway.


Ha, I was just thinking about the approach though. With an opponent with no-bullshit attitude, that wouldn't work.

Dr. Raichi: "Huh, he's reducing his power level. Why is he doing that? Anyway, I better kill him quickly before he does anything else."
Basically almost any DB Villain: "Oh, I'm going to stand back and watch what he's up to."


However, it makes sense why Goku couldn't use it on Uub. Even though Uub might have allowed it if Goku asked for it, they settled on an explosive SSJ3 vs Kaioken fight instead. Therefore, after Uub's Transcended Kaioken, Goku didn't have time to properly play his own Trump card. Cell on the other hand probably wouldn't have let it happen if he realized how serious the situation was. Moreover, Cell is not worth it for Vegeta to show his true new power. It's a matter of respect. Vegeta has nothing but contempt for his U10 alter ego, Kakarot and Cell, which is why he virtually mocked all of them.

Aw yeah... I'm looking forward for the biggest, fanservice-y fight yet..! I'm also crazy excited to see what tricks theses two have up their sleeves!

ChrisOfChaos was saying: Apocalipticototal was saying: They reminded me of the three wolves from U9, from DBS.

It seems that after mysteriously disappearing in DBZ, the anthropomorphic animals return, I like it.

The King of Japan appears in the Cell Saga and he's a blue dog.
That is only in the anime, therefore not canon, although Oloong and Puar do appear very occasionally, at the beginning of the manga they were very recurring, apparently being a large percentage of the population, but after the sayan saga I don't recall seeing another canon appearance.

Kami can't kill himself. It's impossible.

DrewSaga was saying: Cell's statement did not age well. Also here comes our favorite universe, the one with 2 Semi-Finalists!

Northeal was saying: And the MVP pf the first round and majin arc finally arrives

You mean the jobber that could have taken out Babidi but instead thought fighting Gohan and then Majin Bra was a good idea?

Jobber? I meant that he was the most entertaining character in those portions of the story. He's an entertaining villain, his fight against Dabra was the best out of the first round, and was by far the best part of the whole majin shit. Besides, he fought Gohan because he wanted to. He planned everything to set up towards taking down Babidi but he also wanted an excuse to take Gohan on because he was his main rival. It's way more interesting that he could scheme to take Babidi down while also managing to include his personal desires too. They never would've done nearly as well against Bra without Cell, and he was responsible for getting them together. He was also smart enough to try and attack Babidi directly and his minis were what tricked Buu and saved Gohan's life. He was absolutely the mvp.

Rimuru_Tempest was saying: Cemociy was saying: 30 years... future Trunks final appearance in Z was in 1993. Maybe that's what he's referring to?
No, because it has been 27 years since the Cell Saga for them.

Wait so it’s been 20 years since the Buu saga for them? Unless Pan and Bra were born really late in this comic then that timeline doesn’t match up.

Are we going to get confirmation for what many folks assumed all this time? That 16 is actually the reason the present androids didnt go full on genocidal? I hope Trunks explains in VERY explicit detail how he blew the both of them apart in his universe just to see the look on their faces. Also, these androids are from a very confusing timeline; I always just assumed they killed Trunks, but it seems like they either did and dont even realize it or somehow he got jumped by Cell like the flashback to OUR Cells future, but that begs the question as to why he did that and didnt just go absorb them?

You know, I hope 16 gets the chance to kill Kakarotto at some point. After all he's done for the Z Fighters he deserves that much. Even if he does instant revive at least he can get it out of his system.

kcheeb was saying: Why is bulma so young here? Shouldn't she be more than 50

Seems to me if you zoom in she might have some extra lines and/or bags under her eyes making her look a little older. I can't tell if that's just maybe supposed to be the normal lines under a DBZ character's eyes or not though. Might be what that slight crease in her grin, as well as Tien's mouth, are trying to portray also. Either way, to be fair, Bulma is rich as hell so it's not out of the question for her to look younger than your typical 50-60 year old. I mean you look at some celebrities who can afford cooks, dietitians, personal trainers, plastic surgeons, etc., and they look younger than their age as well.

응, 16호 넌 쟤한테 한방감이야. 오자루로 변신할때도 초2베지터에게 피 정도 흘리게 했는데 무슨 수로?

Now we are talking, rob the riches and providing for the poor. That's what Orzo is thinking, you can clearly see it on his face, they are out of luck though, he will buy another Lamborghini with it.

It would be very funny if she joined the u18 team. I think she’s probably on the level of SS1 Vegito, imagine if this series actually ended with her going back to u18.

Nassif9000 was saying: ... still salty that he didn't draw the Vegeta VS Cell fight. not that what we got was bad at all

Good in the sense that I have no room to judge.

You know, Vegetto did say he could destroy a person's soul. I wonder what effect that might have on Buu...

frambuesa was saying: Whats the problem with preparing attacks in advance?
Sounds like a dumb reason to make Vegetto get mad with Buu.

Trunk is essentially calling Buu a coward. Buu is near omni-powerful, yet did something a pathetic thug would’ve to avoid: cheat.
Remember trunk and most the Sayian we known run on pride and honor.

Suisei's art style is a bit different from what we're used to, but not bad at all.

Seems like it'd be a pretty anticlimactic end if Goku wins this fight by just surviving. I know people keep speculating that he has new powers that he'll show in a future round, but I would have liked to have seen any hint of them here instead of just letting uub go all out just to explode or something.

CaptainKashup was saying: Can we all agree that Asura is the best artist for DBZ ?
He even tops Toriyama for me.

Well, to be fair, he is quite a bit slower. Asura draws a 25 page chapter in around 4 months (the time for the chapter, plus the special before the next), while Toriyama drew a 14 page chapter per week, or around 8 times more. Even if we consider that Toriyama spent 4 times more time drawing than Asura (not even that far-fetched, considering the toxic environment mangakas live in), that means Asura is still 2x slower. If he could spend twice the time on each page, I'm pretty sure Toriyama would do the same or better as Asura.

tario was saying: 진즉에 베지트 포타라나 오지터로 퓨전했으면 걍 이겼을텐데...
저런 지능 낮은 액체괴물한테 몰빵을 왜 해가지고...ㅋ

못이깁니다. 팩트만 말씀드리자면 브로리가 단시간에 엄청난수련해온 초베지트1이랑 냉동상태에서 호각 이었고 초2변신이랑 치고 박았습니다.
그래서 얼티밋오반 지터오공 모든 전사들을 흡수하고 재생이 가능하고 마법도 가능한 부우로 변한게 맞다고 봅니다.
초1베지트로는 절대로 브로리 못넘습니다. 1분도 안되서 따라잡히고 말꺼에요