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仅是剑客 21 April
Ok, then just turn Great Apes to crush them
Saigo no Son page 51
仅是剑客 7 April
"I draw this for free, so you don't have the right to judge my works..."
DBMultiverse Special OAV - Broly Final War page 81
仅是剑客 26 March
If Roshi isn’t powerful enough, Gogeta or Super Buu definitely would be. And it wouldn’t be hard for Gogeta or super Buu to learn and use it on Broly
DBMultiverse Special OAV - Broly Final War page 77
仅是剑客 13 March
The whole Universe is wiped out, but not the invincible Broly and the ice (H2O)......

And the birdmen can still find him and bring him to the field......
DBMultiverse Special OAV - Broly Final War page 74
仅是剑客 11 March
I don’t even want to argue why Broly survived this anymore.

The story would make more sense if you just say Broly overcharged the black hole and blow up the living world so no Dragon Ball left.
DBMultiverse Special OAV - Broly Final War page 73
仅是剑客 6 March
Let's say Broly escaped the attach from SSJ3 Gogeta, how could Goku and Vegeta ignore Broly's ki?
DBMultiverse Special OAV - Broly Final War page 72
仅是剑客 5 March
The z fighters haven't been killed by Androids yet? That's a surprise
Saigo no Son page 31
仅是剑客 3 March
Buu's plan is always stupid
DBMultiverse Special OAV - Broly Final War page 71
仅是剑客 25 February
Don't tell me "Broly is his own power's victim" BS
DBMultiverse Special OAV - Broly Final War page 69
仅是剑客 25 February
Realisticly, Nappa would be the bully for both Gohan and Raditz while Vegeta doesn't give a F. 1 Replie(s)
Saigo no Son page 28
仅是剑客 20 February
In DB, death doesn't mean the end.

Maybe someone wished Broly back or Broly's Ghost got a body and revived by someone like Babidi?
DBMultiverse Special OAV - Broly Final War page 68
仅是剑客 20 February
If Z fighters found Namek, they would just wish Gohan back.

Obviously, the earth is under Android's control now.

If the first team went to earth is ginyu force and Ginyu successfully switched body with a strongest Android, it would be fun.
Saigo no Son page 26
仅是剑客 18 February
I'm curious about the Saiyan race. They seem to be incredibly similar to both Earthlings and Heliors in terms of appearance.

Is there any possible biological link between the races? and how much potential might a hybrid of Helior & Saiyan have?
DBMultiverse Colors page 294
仅是剑客 18 February
The fact is that the conquest of Earth is not worth the trouble for most of Frieza's troops, it would take a year to get there.
The Earth in in Dr. Gero's control by now anyway 1 Replie(s)
Saigo no Son page 25
仅是剑客 17 February
So only the tiny bit of Broly left and got his size back
DBMultiverse Special OAV - Broly Final War page 67
仅是剑客 13 February
So Gohan is completely evil now.

Why Z fighters haven't create a rescue plan? Goku & Piccolo should be training on King Kai's planet now, King Kai should notify Z fighters about the Namek. And Bulma can build a spaceship with Kami or Goku's spacepod.

Is the earth facing androids now? Maybe Dr. Gero launch attack far earlier due to earth lack of Goku. 2 Replie(s)
Saigo no Son page 23
仅是剑客 13 February
Both SSJ3 Gotenks and Ultimate Gohan are stronger than super Buu, but they cannot control super Buu nor his character. 1 Replie(s)
DBMultiverse Special OAV - Broly Final War page 66
仅是剑客 10 February
Gogeta, You are defusing
DBMultiverse Special OAV - Broly Final War page 65
仅是剑客 9 February
Wait, Nappa isn’t bald?
Saigo no Son page 21
仅是剑客 6 February
The clown dad and daughter are gonna bring some trouble to everyone again.
They really don't deserve their power just like Gotenks
DB Multiverse page 2451
仅是剑客 6 February
Even Gogeta destroied BUU, Broly will just get released.
DBMultiverse Special OAV - Broly Final War page 64
仅是剑客 31 January
Right, Bra, walk into the trap and get yourself absorbed so Goku can face bigger trouble.
And the dragon ball of XXI, we can mostly certain that XXI's true identity is close to Shadow Dragon. Maybe anti-dragon.
DB Multiverse page 2449
仅是剑客 30 January
Why Buu still refuses to use Mafuba or "Evil Containment Wave"? Seems like their last choice.
DBMultiverse Special OAV - Broly Final War page 62
仅是剑客 29 January
ZGrssd was saying:

You picked the page before Yanemba showed his ability to teleport and his magic. Which drastically changed her calculation. Page 2406 is way more recent then page 2393.

In Page 2406, Bra sounds more like just worry about how would Gast beat Janemba.
And sure...teleportation and magic to limit regeneration are terrify for Bra, lol
DB Multiverse page 2448
仅是剑客 29 January
Wasn't Bra believe Janemba was weak? https://w...393.html#h_read
She really has became a clown as her father now.
Goku is better to learn from Gast and Uub instead of listening to her. 4 Replie(s)
DB Multiverse page 2448
仅是剑客 29 January
Looks like Raditz lost an arm.
And how many years has passed since earth? Gohan changed a lot.
Saigo no Son page 16
仅是剑客 19 January
Feels like XXI is the concept of Death.

That’s why XXI isn’t a living being with a soul, because he’s a concept.

Goku still has a shot if he gets something help from Uub.

I felt like Zen Buu definitely left some tricks to beat XXI in the time chamber between he broke the seal and he got teleport back to his universe.

Gast isn’t psychically stronger than SSJ 3 tier, he is just magically strong.

With Goku’s new form and tricks of Zen Buu, Goku will defeat XXI.
DB Multiverse page 2444
仅是剑客 17 January
If his absorption has no limit, even carbonite wouldn't work, anti-matter is the only solution.

But if XXI is this incredible, he doesn't have to use Janemba to wear Gast out.

His energy absorption must have its limit.

Gast, hit him really hard! 2 Replie(s)
DB Multiverse page 2443
仅是剑客 16 January
So maybe bring Gohan back to Vegeta? Just tell Gohan the Namekian killed everyone on earth.

If they train with Gohan well, they might end up with another U13 with Gohan in team.

The earth will fall into Dr. Gero's hands since Z fighter is doomed.
Saigo no Son page 11
仅是剑客 16 January
I am confused about the power level here.

LSSJ Broly should be weaker than the one in the tournament, so weaker than SSJ1 Vegetto.

Janemba should be weaker than the one in the tournament as well, so also weaker than SSJ1 Vegetto, most likely Ultimate Gohan level.

SSJ3 Gogeta should be at least SSJ2 Vegetto level, how does he get injured by LSSJ Broly?

And how could Janemba and "invincible" LSSJ Broly kill each other? Janemba need to be careful to not get one shot.
DBMultiverse Special OAV - Broly Final War page 58
仅是剑客 10 January
The most reasonable guess of XXI’s true identity is still evil/dark/shadow dragon or the “original/ancient” Namekian kind of staff.
DB Multiverse page 2440
仅是剑客 9 January
ZenBuu was saying:
Anyway... not to mention this story here isn't canon to DBM either. 

Glad to know this is not canon
DBMultiverse Special OAV - Broly Final War page 56
仅是剑客 8 January
XXI looks like a Dark Dragon.
Goku definitly needs Uub's help to defeat XXI.
Hope, Gast wouldn't be turned into another Janemba
DB Multiverse page 2439
仅是剑客 7 January
Based on the original series, Raditz was gonna kill Gohan before Goku.
If Raditz won, they all died.
Then the Saiyan team is either slaved by Frieza forever or killed by Frieza.
Saigo no Son page 7
仅是剑客 3 January
I think XXI might get Gast as replacement for Janemba for the reward.
DB Multiverse page 2437
仅是剑客 17 December
Sayazur was saying:

Why kibitoshin didnt't teleport Buu in the sun ?
Why didn't goku and his frieds killed gero 3 years before the android activation ?
Why didn't kibito teleport Buu cocoon in the sun ?
It is actually a solution for these character, but :
— there will be no story.
— Broly survived litterally the BIGGEST black Hole in the universe


You examples are different from current situation.
The “sun can kill everyone” setting doesn’t exist in original Dragon Ball.
And the Z fighters always had a chance of winning without playing tricky.
But this time, the whole universe is at stake, and fighting like this has no chance to win. Anyone with a brain can tell, so why everyone in the story agrees with this?
DBMultiverse Special OAV - Broly Final War page 49
仅是剑客 16 December
I guess the universe will be saved in the end. Since Broly was found in Universe 20.
It just really stupid for Gogeta to fight Broly with no plan. How about instant transmit Broly into a Black hole again? Which Kaioshin should do in the beginning of this story. 2 Replie(s)
DBMultiverse Special OAV - Broly Final War page 49
仅是剑客 12 December
Let's be honest, "LSSJ Broly is invincible" is the dumbest character setting that I have ever heard. For dragon ball, whoever the opponent is, you just need to hit them really hard.
And Gogeta is wasting time, I hope he know it.
DBMultiverse Special OAV - Broly Final War page 48
仅是剑客 29 November
If it doesn't work on Piccolo, it wouldn't work on Gast.
Gast is pretending as always 2 Replie(s)
DB Multiverse page 2422
仅是剑客 18 November
Even they succeed, I bet the afterlife dimension could not handle the energy of SSJ3 Gogeta.
If Gogeta tries to fight Broly with raw power, they would diffuse soon
DBMultiverse Special OAV - Broly Final War page 41
仅是剑客 14 November
Where are the halos on Goku and Vegeta's head?
I guess either the fusion cannot last long enough or the fusion failed.
But if Gogeta can hold Broly up for a second so Buu turn Broly into candy.
It should be pretty easy for Gogeta to destroy the candy Broly.
Or Gogeta is gonna fight until the fusion end?
Maybe something worse, Gogeta uses final dragon flash to attack but end with the destruction of the dimensions
DBMultiverse Special OAV - Broly Final War page 40
仅是剑客 11 November
Are we sure this personality is Gohans'?
And this Buu should be far weaker than the one in Chapter 81. 2 Replie(s)
DBMultiverse Special OAV - Broly Final War page 39
仅是剑客 8 November
The page was when 13 Vegeta went to U9 to find Raditz.
Weirdly, we didn't see any reaction between 13 Vegeta and 9 Bulma 1 Replie(s)
Minicomic page 131
仅是剑客 8 November
So Trunks and Bulma are at the scene as well.
Weirdly, we didn't see any reaction between 13 Vegeta and 9 Bulma
DB Multiverse page 1976
仅是剑客 7 November
It should be easy for Buu to turn Broly into a candy 1 Replie(s)
DBMultiverse Special OAV - Broly Final War page 38
仅是剑客 6 November
Gast is pretending, but XXI hasn't even shown his true self yet.
DB Multiverse page 2414
仅是剑客 4 November
Wasn't Gast say Janemba doesn't have a soul?
Is this a trap?
DB Multiverse page 2413
仅是剑客 4 November
Raditz must last to the end.
I mean seriously, even without the tricks and wishes you guys suggesting.
Asking elder Kai to unlock everyone's potential and teach everyone fusion dance are the basic fighting strategy.
DBMultiverse Special OAV - Broly Final War page 37
仅是剑客 1 November
We will have to wait a few mouth to see the end of this fight.
Let's see if Janemba evolved after this or there are more Janemba waiting Gast
XXI was talking about "Vanquish Gast easily", so Janemba is either a trap or something crazier. Maybe Janemba is gonna exlode? 1 Replie(s)
DB Multiverse page 2412
仅是剑客 31 October
Use instant transmission to leave and do fusion dance now
DBMultiverse Special OAV - Broly Final War page 36
仅是剑客 28 October
Let's make a wish: Raditz dies last in the story
DBMultiverse Special OAV - Broly Final War page 35
仅是剑客 28 October
Wait, are they Android 19's parents?
And...it has been ten years? I still remember how I compared Gast's power level to semi perfect Cell because of his fight with King Cold at that time.
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仅是剑客 27 October
别忘了布欧那招是专门为了克制同化狂而设计的,但如果用在与至善的同化狂相反的至恶邪­念波身上,可能会起反作用让邪念波进入二阶段变身
结果就是让XXI邪念波对于悟空来说更难打了
DB Multiverse page 2410
仅是剑客 27 October
That dark lightning skill was supposed to counter Gast specifically.
Would it actually work well against Janemba who is opposite of Gast?
Or the skill might even give Janemba a boost toward a new transformation?
I feel like Gast is not only losing, He is making Goku needs to try harder 2 Replie(s)
DB Multiverse page 2410
仅是剑客 20 October
The whole point of Gast die trying is to help Goku find Janemba’s weakness which is slurring 1 Replie(s)
DB Multiverse page 2407
仅是剑客 18 October
Is Gast gonna self-explode? Energy blast doesn't work, Gast's trick might work once, but not the second time.
DB Multiverse page 2406
仅是剑客 16 October
No Cheat tricks allowed for Janemba
Vegetto must want to learn it
Just like Bra said, you just need to hit Janemba really hard.
Goku might able to finish Janemba with a dragon fist.
For Gast.......Try self-explosion
DB Multiverse page 2405
仅是剑客 14 October
ZenBuu was saying:
Shabby was saying: @ZenBuu

in-story this is a continuation of U20 where MegaBuu was defeated. This may not be canon to DBM, but this plays off DBM's canon.

I just want them to put their best strategy forward, and they came at this with no strategy. They intentionally picked this fight with no strategy.

Summon Porunga and wish for potara earrings. Wish for two or three pairs (Piccolo plus Gohan),

Build-A-Buu again, but better.

Use Kai Magic, Babidi magic, Dabura.

Spend a year gathering a heavenly spirit bomb.

Teach everyone, even the bad guys, fusion dance. After you win, wish the bad guys forgot the fight and the technique.

It's like... dark stories are fun, depressing stories are not.
None of this really matters in the end, since we all know they will fail to some extent anyway. But! Broly appeared in an iceblock at the tournament, so they kind of managed to at least neutralize him somehow.

So even if they have a super smart plan to really beat Broly and still fail, like it kinda already happened with the absurd "Broly-tanks-a-fucking-blackhole-special­­", people would be even more upset that it doesn't make much sense. This was already to me one of the worst parts ever in DBM history and I barely complain. That's why I personally think the whole reason to even do this special here is unnecessary. But that's just my opinion. I still respect Sayazur and his work a lot. :)

Don't forget all this is still free to read and nobody forces you to read it anyway. :D

twitch.tv/reileo was saying: IMO they could just:

Wish 2 - Give Goku the ability to create the Spirit Bomb instantly, just like Frieza could charge his Supernova in a matter of seconds. Grant Goku the same ability.

Wish 3 - Make it impossible for any type of transformation to occur in hell.

Done, Broly would revert to his normal form (along with everyone else), BUT Goku would still be able to charge the Spirit Bomb in seconds (he doesn’t need Super Saiyan for it) and throw it at base form Broly. GG, it’s over.
I seriously doubt that would be possible tbh.


We just curious why throughout all the possible methods of defeating Broly, they choosed the most hopeless one.
We know the outcome, but a reasonable plan failed is different from a completely suicide mission.
DBMultiverse Special OAV - Broly Final War page 31
仅是剑客 14 October
Sayazur was saying:
Okay, now you need a big conceptual explanation.
This is how I see the afterlife in DB:
For me, it's a parallel dimension (like the mind/time room) but on a much larger scale, which prevents it from being accessible by the living.

This dimension is completely surrounded by 3 spherical layers:
— The universe itself, whose purpose is to isolate it and make it inaccessible to mortals.
— an enormous spherical boundary of magical ice, which keeps the departed souls in good condition; the afterlife is a place where it's cold enough.
— clouds, to give the place a touch of style and hide the big, unwelcoming ice border.

The ice frontier is the most important. If it were to be destroyed, there would be a leak between the universe and the beyond, like removing a silicone plug separating a tank of water from an electrical circuit.


If Goku can sense Ki and teleport there with instant transmission. It's hard to say it belongs to other dimension like time chamber.
DBMultiverse Special OAV - Broly Final War page 31
仅是剑客 13 October
Gast just proved that magic and special abilities aren’t gonna be able to defeat Janemba.
Goku needs to not only counter Janemba’s move, but also one shot Janemba with a super strong move like dragon fist.
And Goku definitely needs some help from Uub
DB Multiverse page 2404
仅是剑客 11 October
This attack looks like fragments of Dimension
Hope it can be avoided by instant transmission
DB Multiverse page 2403
仅是剑客 4 October
Gast just pushed Janemba towards second form
Maybe the fat Janemba is the second form
https://w...der-1-850876341 2 Replie(s)
DB Multiverse page 2400
仅是剑客 3 October
Funny they tries to use SSJ3 to wear out Broly, even in the another world wouldn't save too much of their stamina
DBMultiverse Special OAV - Broly Final War page 28
仅是剑客 30 September
So Goku and Vegeta didn't discover The Normal SSJ in this universe? 2 Replie(s)
DBMultiverse Special OAV - Broly Final War page 27
仅是剑客 27 September
It seems implying Gogeta will still be the one who defeat Janemba
DB Multiverse page 2397
仅是剑客 27 September
The most brave Saiyan is actually Raditz, lol 1 Replie(s)
DBMultiverse Special OAV - Broly Final War page 26
仅是剑客 23 September
Shabby was saying:
仅是剑客 was saying: At this point, only Zen Buu's dark magic could work on Broly.
So the only wise choice right now is ....... RUN!!!!

Fat Buu overwhelmed the will of Babidi, Good Buu could absorb Baba, Babidi and Piccolo (for intelligence) and exert Babidi's magic.

It's U20, it won't work, but it's better than sparring with him.

There's literally no way the wills of the baddies here, even the eliminated ones, outweigh the wills of the good guys. There's zero chance of corrupting Buu.




jonathan_vik was saying:
仅是剑客 was saying: At this point, only Zen Buu's dark magic could work on Broly.
So the only wise choice right now is ....... RUN!!!!

Nah, just have Debora spit on him. Or have regular Buu turn him to candy. Simple. Broly's not that tough to beat.



I didn't even see Babidi or Debura here. Maybe they are so evil that they got reincarnated as soon as they were dead.
Even they are still there, Debora's spit could be blocked by barrier, and Babidi within Buu could turn Buu evil.
Actually, Gogeta and mafuba are always their best shot. 1 Replie(s)
DBMultiverse Special OAV - Broly Final War page 25
仅是剑客 23 September
At this point, only Zen Buu's dark magic could work on Broly.
So the only wise choice right now is ....... RUN!!!! 2 Replie(s)
DBMultiverse Special OAV - Broly Final War page 25
仅是剑客 23 September
Janemba does look like Cooler
DB Multiverse page 2395
仅是剑客 20 September
The sword was made of nothing.
Gast breaking it wouldn't change anything
DB Multiverse page 2394
仅是剑客 19 September
Are Goku and Vegeta able to use their new Normal SSJ form?
Anyway, they are suiciding
BTW, shouldn't Raditz just get blown away by their energy wave?
DBMultiverse Special OAV - Broly Final War page 24
仅是剑客 18 September
Even Gast can go ten times stronger, Janemba might not be XXI's final trick.
And for Bra: you should leave all your hope to someone you barely know
DB Multiverse page 2393
仅是剑客 13 September
Gast even regenerate the pants.
Janemba's design is like Cell, Cooler and Buu combined.
Looks like Gast is gonna shot an eye beam, like that would work 3 Replie(s)
DB Multiverse page 2391
仅是剑客 11 September
Would the cut further hurt the audience?
And from the cover page, Gast has his own sword.
Are we gonna witness a sword fight? But both Janemba and Gast are not the type can be killed by cuts 1 Replie(s)
DB Multiverse page 2390
仅是剑客 9 September
So they cannot curve the energy beam like they always do or they just don't want to?
Anyway, the fight is a suicide mission.
DBMultiverse Special OAV - Broly Final War page 21
仅是剑客 8 September
无所谓了,反正现在都看英文版的
DB Multiverse page 2376
仅是剑客 6 September
South_Ferry was saying:
What do you guys think of Goku winning the tournament against xxi in the end? Because it looks like Gast will lose this

It is both cliche and fitting for this manga, it would be a true celebration of dragon ball. Goku finding out how to save the day like he always does, it would be cool.

Remember how Vegetto pretend to be Goku to trick Broly to attack him?
And the fact is Vagas cannot tell the difference
So Gogeta can pretend to be Goku to beat XXI.
Although Goku and Vegeta might need some extra help from Uub, Gast and elder Kai, it will be a happy ending.
And Vegetto will have his dream battle with Gogeta as well
DB Multiverse page 2388
仅是剑客 3 September
Seriously?
Frieza who is weaker than ssj1 can control above ssj3 level Broly?
And Raditz did survive, and he even caught up with others to fire, lol
Could Goku and Vegeta here use their new normal SSJ yet?
Uub is not even using Kaioken, what do they think this blast can do?
DBMultiverse Special OAV - Broly Final War page 19
仅是剑客 1 September
Like I said, from storytelling standpoint, Gast is gonna lose. Because Gast vs Goku is much less fun than Goku vs XXI.
Of course, Goku will receive some help from Uub after his training, Zen Buu might left a trump Card for them against XXI.
And there is a possibility that we can see a rematch between Gogeta and Janemba 1 Replie(s)
DB Multiverse page 2386
仅是剑客 30 August
Janemba?
OK, sorry Gast, you had your shine, you can go now. You lost to Zen Buu, you are not the most interesting character towards final.
And I don't believe Janemba is XXI's only trump card.
A final between Goku and Gast wouldn't be dramatic.
18 Goku the savior vs the ultimate evil XXI would be classic.
And we definitely need another Gogeta vs Janemba!
Who else remember the graph of Vegetto shaking hand with Gogeta? XXI is the only one who might rival Gogeta and Vegetto together.
DB Multiverse page 2385
仅是剑客 30 August
Can Goku and Vegeta transfer into their normal SSJ form at this point? One more year training in the other world should be benefitial 1 Replie(s)
DBMultiverse Special OAV - Broly Final War page 18
仅是剑客 28 August
Hatchiyack? or Hirudegarn? 2 Replie(s)
DB Multiverse page 2384
仅是剑客 26 August
Why Gohan looks like Vegeta?
BTW, is Vegeta gonna die in the next page?
I still don't understand why they use this obvious suicide strategy instead of trying fusion dance after all getting a potential unlocked by elder kai.
They had so many chance of winning, but they chose this losing one.
DBMultiverse Special OAV - Broly Final War page 17
仅是剑客 23 August
Missing the time when Vegetto was not a clown
DBMultiverse Colors page 218
仅是剑客 23 August
Will Mary Sue's kid(s) create another chapter?
DB Multiverse page 2382
仅是剑客 22 August
If I were Cell, I would use instant transmission to escape in the beginning of the fight.
Seriously, why would those villains fight rather than escape to living ralm where Broly cannot reach now?
DBMultiverse Special OAV - Broly Final War page 16
仅是剑客 19 August
Well, Gotenks is here, even Vegeta's ego still prohibits him from the fusion dance, Goku and Gohan can fuse as well. This arc really doesn't make much sense. The Z fighters have always ruled out the obvious best choice.
DBMultiverse Special OAV - Broly Final War page 15
仅是剑客 18 August
Pool Vegeto, seems like he is gonna stay weak for a while without any senzu beans left. So healing is just a magic which everyone can learn instead of a natural gift ability? So if Cell. Jr learnt it, Cell can abuse Zenkai to boost himself to an infinite level?
DB Multiverse page 2380
仅是剑客 11 August
怎么觉得满满的flag感,该不会下一页他两直接被当作小沙鲁一样撕成四片吧
DB Multiverse page 2377
仅是剑客 11 August
Could Raditz transfer to a Mystic Ozaru? Anyway, I hope Vegeta won’t one shot both of them in the next page like against Cell Jr
DB Multiverse page 2377
仅是剑客 9 August
They just need to hold Vegata until his SSJ3 drain him out.
Better Kakarot as defense shield with his immoratality and Raditz as offence considering his mystic stamina.
They can win as long as they don't get on shot by a huge blast
DB Multiverse page 2376
仅是剑客 2 August
这完全是邪卡的疯批样啊,还不如直接放弃拉蒂兹直接去找18宇宙谈合作呢,把欧布放出­来,还有个普超的悟吉塔可以融合出来,18宇宙依然是最后的定海神针,找其他人帮忙风­险都很大,尤其是现在XXI可能也有了布欧那种克制同化狂的手段
DB Multiverse page 2373
仅是剑客 30 July
不管是真是假,有没有开神秘,和最弱超三五五开是真的垃圾
DB Multiverse page 2371
仅是剑客 30 July
In the beyond SSJ3 battle, I truly don’t think any of those old villains can be useful, for Raditz and Nappa… I don’t think them can even get close to Broly without being killed by Broly’s ki wave.
And they really should practice fusion and let Old Kai to just unlock everyone’s potential. Ultimate Gotenks and ultimate Gogeta would stand a chance against Broly. Ultimate King Cold and ultimate Cell might be able to fuse as well. But fight like this. They are so doomed.
DBMultiverse Special OAV - Broly Final War page 9
仅是剑客 25 July
目测同化狂和贝吉特联手都未必制得住XXI,老界指望这个最多神饭水平的垃圾干嘛
DB Multiverse page 2369
仅是剑客 21 July
他前一页说不受限于变身基本锤实已经开神秘了。
不如神饭的神秘合体人。。。。。。乱战作者都把拉蒂兹这种单体纯血赛亚人黑出翔了
DB Multiverse page 2368
仅是剑客 18 July
RX6900XT was saying:
合体素材的邪卡没有被开潜,卡蒂兹说不再需要变身不一定就代表他是神秘状态,或许他要­表达的是对付邪贝这档次的常态足够了,变超赛是否继续增强他自己还不清楚,蹲后续……­另外从卡蒂兹这一脸陶醉的神情来看,感觉是老界施展了幻术的可能性更高了

英文原台词是:“I'M NO LONGER LIMITED TO TRANSFORMATIONS!” 也就是“我不再被变身所限制了”,那就只能是常驻的神秘状态了。
只是乱战设定上非常鄙视单体纯血赛亚人而已,尤其是拉蒂兹基本被设定为最废的赛亚人,­所以合体后自然也还是要被作者黑一下的,即使开了神秘又合了体,也还是很废,估计单挑­可能打不过18空贝的新形态,当然,这个卡卡蒂兹有尾巴,理论上还可以变身神秘巨猿 1 Replie(s)
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仅是剑客 17 July
So he is using Ultimate. The fusion Kakaditz seems only equal to Ultimate Gohan
Kakarot’s character seems in advance of control
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仅是剑客 17 July
看起来果然是邪卡人格占上风
这还真是神秘形态,打个最弱超三都这么费劲的神秘形态合体人太垃圾了,持平神饭的水平­在现在的局势中差不多算个龙套
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仅是剑客 16 July
乌山明 was saying:
仅是剑客 was saying: 卡卡蒂兹现在用的是常态还是神秘?要是神秘半天拿不下最弱超三也太垃圾了

常态能打成这样那就是超三太垃圾了……
目前来看是合理的,一个靠M化变的超二+一个超二水平的神秘,没有劲敌加成,耳环合体­­后就是中级超三水平,刚好能压制初变超三的邪贝

不过有一个奇怪的地方,这章的内容是发生在小鸡头事件之前的,而小鸡头停止时间时邪卡­­还在,并没有和拉哥合体
乱战的设定里耳环合体是不会自动解除的,就算能强制解除卡卡蒂兹也不会同意
看回2359页,最后那一格有个奇怪的扭曲,就是那种漫画里很常见的进入梦境或者幻觉­­的表现
所以我怀疑这个合体还有战斗这段其实是老界塞进拉哥脑子里的假记忆或者幻觉什么的


按照原著老界的说法,悟饭悟空合体后也可以变超赛,并且不需要变超赛就能击败悟天克斯­布欧,考虑到悟天克斯布欧和这个最弱超三的差距,卡卡蒂兹常态稍胜最弱超三是合理的,­现在唯一的疑问只是合体后还能不能变神秘了
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