Uhh Vegeta, are you still alive?

Don't won't to be that guy but-

That opening page almost look like a porno...or at least fanfare material.

Wait so this Broly defeated Ultimate Gohan, SSJ3 Goku post-Buu and SSJ2 Vegeta?! How?!

Super Gojita 3 was saying: >So, the mark is an indicator of the spell, but it may "lag behind" or be inaccurate for whatever reason. If death alone is not enough to remove the spell, that means Babidi's servants remain forever loyal to him after their deaths (unless Enma removes the spell separately), which is why I said it would be a bit too optimistic for Babidi.

for babadi to know the spell stops working if the majin'd one was killed and revived, he'd have to actually experience this first hand, and on this page he is explicitly surprised dabura is free.

so, no he wouldn't know this as ressurection is rare in u11.

@zenbuu

I was talking about vegeta in u18 when it happened the first time, as it did surprise him.

@CrystalMV



Long story short, babadi does not know how his magic works 100%, just the basics like "this evil guy will be my slave and is powered up" and didn't take into account other strong willed guys who could break the control.

>Yeah, I guess that explains it all, lol.

Right. he knows enough about it. just like how in death note, ryuuk knows enough about the death notefor his purposes, but light basically comes up with things ryuuk didn't know was even possible. like writing the death cause, and then some time later writing the name, or with ray penbar, he had ray write down the names of his bosses and what not, because he figured kira needed a name and a face, but didn't know the note paper he was writing in would kill his superiors, as it was beign written down with ray knowing the faces and names of the people he was writing down.

Magic is, well, not an exact science. as it shouldn't be. But light almost damn well had it down.
Maybe if Babidi didn't invent the spell himself but learned it from somewhere else, I'm okay with him not knowing how it works.

Scandal was saying: One bad guy gets punished and the other gets feel good time and turns everyone on her good father. Tisk tisk.
And one more bad guy walks away with no consequences. And one more bad guy not only didn't get his comeuppance, he even got freed after years of being Babidi's servant. And yet another bad guy...

Alright, what the hell is with this obsession with Bra? She, a relatively good person, received a kick in the stomach, causing her to cough up blood, after she had already learned the lesson, while the evil guys walk away unpunished (except Nappa who got merely knocked out), with no intentions to change their ways, and Dabura even ended up in a better situation. The only one who got punished worse than Bra is Babidi, who was behind all of this. Yet, people still complain about Bra not receiving punishment. Back when "braphobia" term was a thing, I myself didn't take it that seriously, now I see it's real.

By the way, the good father that everyone turned against, killed billions of people himself earlier in his life.

Terrible dad cant handle that everything is back to normal, no ones punished, buu held back and he was inconsequential to the whole thing.

Scandal was saying: How bout that punishment? She can't be let free.

Who, Bra? She can't be let free? In the same way Vegeta was just casually let off scott free for murdering (or at the least aiding and abetting in the murder of) the Dragon Team and an entire village of Nameccians? And that's just counting the folk he's been responsible for the death of since he encountered our heroes, to say nothing of the slaughter he's caused across Universe 7 in the actual story. How about when Vegeta was just casually let off scott free when he INTENTIONALLY sold his soul to Babidi because he was having a midlife crisis and couldn't accept that he'd never settled his differences with Kakarrot (when it wasn't even Kakarrot who beat him on Earth but that's neither here nor there). Bra can very much be let off scott free for being blindsided with mind control and killing everyone under someone else's influence. It happens in anime all the time, and especially so in Dragon Ball. Why pass out arbitrary punishments now when the original series certainly hasn't and it makes no sense in-universe as the people literally sit down and break bread with yesterday's murderers.

I think that the most of you are missing the point, it is not about Bra. It is about Vegitto, the point is that he is impure and he is struggling, sometime soon, he is going to lose it.. I think that is what Salagir prepare us for..

LadyKat was saying: First of all, this Bra is not Vegeta's daughter, she is Vegetto's daughter. Second, apart from killing the two heloites, U16 Gohan, the mini Cell Jr, Cell, the supreme kaioshin and all or almost all the spectators, we must also count the deaths that she caused at age 12, which includes Goten, an entire planet and a whole solar system. So I don't know about you, but for me that Son Bra has a fairly large number of deaths

Vegito is 50% Vegeta, and Vegeta spent the first few decades of his life committing genocidal war crimes for fun. I wouldn't be trying to compare anyone's body count to someone whose profession was to clean entire planets of all life.

All living things deserve to be happy. Even someone who has done things as horrible as Majin Bra.

Goku looks pretty sympathic towards Bra while Vegito continues learning nothing and being a bad father.

I rolled my eyes so hard lol.
I can't see how people hate Bra but love Gohan. You want to talk about not deserving the power they have? This is the best example I've seen. Atleast Bra trained for alot of hers.
This is making me like Bra even more because she wrecked his shit.

Scandal was saying: This is how Super should have been. Sadly Toriyama was drunk and gave it to lame ass Goku again.
Did you miss when he became strong enough to overpower Super Saiyan Blue Goku and equal Goku in SSJBKK? Or in the manga when he defeated a fusion like Vegito called Kelfa or handled a copying android called 73 like he was nothing despite his powers being copied?

ROF Gohan is LONG GONE.

I love everything about this panel except for who is the strongest at this point. From basic understanding of DBZ I'd have to say that the strongest one there is Goku at this point, mainly due to the fact that Gohan's ultimate form wouldn't sill be above SSJ3, but since this is DBM, it unfortunately still is due to how strong the author believe these characters are.