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iron leaf
2h , 37mn
Farewell, unicorn people. Just one page (yet) in a fan manga to show the danger of the antagonist, and yet they feel very Dragon Ball-esque. The clothing draws strong references to the Kaioshin. Beyond that, I love the architecture of this race. A mix of a little bit fantasy aspects blended with a highly modern society. And the darkness that spreads across the image adds a lot to the apocalyptic atmosphere.
My hypothesis is that the Core People, aka Kaioshin, are one of the few remaining races that survived the original mass extinction of species caused by XXI. This effectively made them the most powerful and wisest beings in the universe. It also motivated them to take on a stronger role as protectors and observers of life in the universe.
(Headcanon, since in the DB/M continuity, the Kaioshin were introduced as gods from the beginning and did not have to acquire this role or work towards it). 1 Replie(s)
DB Multiverse page 2613
My hypothesis is that the Core People, aka Kaioshin, are one of the few remaining races that survived the original mass extinction of species caused by XXI. This effectively made them the most powerful and wisest beings in the universe. It also motivated them to take on a stronger role as protectors and observers of life in the universe.
(Headcanon, since in the DB/M continuity, the Kaioshin were introduced as gods from the beginning and did not have to acquire this role or work towards it). 1 Replie(s)
iron leaf
1 dan, 23h
Grabnatz was saying:
Das scheint der Fall zu sein. Bunga hat bisher nicht veraten, welcher Cyborg auf welche Nebenchfigur aus Dragonball basiert. Allerdings hat man im englischen Kommentarbereich und im Discord Server von DBM versucht herauszufinden, welche Cyborgs komplette OCs und welche eben aus Filler Folgen, Videospielen oder gar Manga Canon stammen könnten.Ist der Opa da links außen in der zweiten Reihe nicht der der sich mit Gohan anfreundet? In dem Filler in dem er mit Tao kämpft? Während des Cell arks
Den alten Mann, den du beschreibst. Das könnte in der Tat Mr. Lao sein. Aus der Filler Episode, kurz vor den Cell-Spielen.
EVA-03 was saying:
Es würde mich nicht wundern, wenn Dr. Gero hier auf 'Nummer' sicher gehen wollte, und vorsichtshalber, alle alten Cyborgs ausmusterte.
Also wurden die alten C-Nummern wohl aussortiert. Dass er aber nicht einmal C16 verschont hat ist schon tragisch
iron leaf
1 dan, 23h
Das Cover ist atemberaubend schön, ich liebe die Schriftart, XXI wirkt furchteinflößend und die Gedichtform ist eine genial originelle Idee für ein Kapitel. ZennBuu hat eine hervorragende Arbeit geleistet in der Übersetzung.
XXI's Darstellung hier, wie ein Stern verschlungen wird, erinnert mich ein wenig an eine Mischung aus Malekith und Galactus aus Marvel. Darüber hinaus habe ich des öfteren eine Theorie gelesen. Demnach könnte es sein, dass XXI's Ursprung etwas mit Carbonite zu tun haben könnte. Etwas weit hergeholt, aber klingt aufregend.
DB Multiverse page 2612
XXI's Darstellung hier, wie ein Stern verschlungen wird, erinnert mich ein wenig an eine Mischung aus Malekith und Galactus aus Marvel. Darüber hinaus habe ich des öfteren eine Theorie gelesen. Demnach könnte es sein, dass XXI's Ursprung etwas mit Carbonite zu tun haben könnte. Etwas weit hergeholt, aber klingt aufregend.
iron leaf
2 dana, 0h
Unochepassava was saying:
I informed Ammar too late that I had only saved the graphic in my own files when I stumbled across it once, and had never created it myself. Since I used it so often (Forum, Discord, etc), it simply gave the impression that I had something to do with it (I mean, it is indeed a super helpful image, explaining DBM's universes with just one single graphic). Ammar did not deliberately refuse to credit you. Ammar was saying: Saso was saying: Except U0 too, right?
Nothing in the Dragon Ball universes happened in U0. xD Because there was no life in this universe to begin with.
iron leaf made this chart to show every single change that happened in each universe that made them alter from U18:
I just added U0, U2 and U5.
Actually, it was me who made that chart, almost 10 years ago.
Nothing in the Dragon Ball universes happened in U0. xD Because there was no life in this universe to begin with.
iron leaf made this chart to show every single change that happened in each universe that made them alter from U18:
I just added U0, U2 and U5.
Actually, it was me who made that chart, almost 10 years ago.
Please don't hold it against him. 1 Replie(s)
iron leaf
4 Siječnja
Oh, that's interesting. #31 is the tallest of them all, and #28 is the tallest woman. What a coincidence that those two were the first to encounter Gast. I just checked, and they are both about the same height as Gast. At first glance, that's nothing special, until you remember that Gast is a true giant, well over 3 meters tall.
Minicomic page 138
iron leaf
2 Siječnja
Ich hoffe sehr Yamoshi hält sich nicht zurück, einfach aus Respekt seiner verstorbenen Frau gegenüer. Es wäre ein grober Charakterfehler, wenn Yamoshi, nachdem er seine Frau sterben sah, nicht schnellstmöglich den Verantwortlichen töten möchte. Wenn er allerdings sein Bestes gibt und Cumber trotzdem nicht mit einfachen Schlägen besiegen kann, bedeutet es, Cumber war sehr viel stärker war als Yamoshi vor dem SSJ.
Yamoshi Story page 153
iron leaf
2 Siječnja
Guter Running Gag. Erinnert mich stark an den Fan Manga, wo Trunks versehentlich in die falsche Zeit gereist ist. Ganz anders als in DBZ.
Super Dragon Bros Z page 211
iron leaf
2 Siječnja
Echt verblüffend, wie einfach so eine Idee ist. Eine Art Schild gegen physische Angriffe. In Dragonball natürlich selbstverständlich, dennoch urkomisch diese Fähigkeit ausgerechnet einem Pantomime zu geben.
DB RED page 34
iron leaf
2 Siječnja
Ich kann mich nicht erinnern Son Goku je so gesehen zu haben. Es scheinen viele starke Emotionen hochzukommen.
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Promesse page 21
iron leaf
2 Siječnja
Wirklich beeindruckend das in Farbe zu sehen. Damals habe ich mich immer gefragt, wie XXI koloriert aussehen würde. Man merkt hier auch noch viel intensiver die Leere des Areal Nr.5 im ersten Panel. Uff, nur kann ich mich weiterhin nicht mit Son Bra's lila Oberteil anfreunden.
DBMultiverse Colors page 475
iron leaf
2 Siječnja
uiui was saying:
Schrödinger's U7 Buu-Ei. Solange das nächste U7 Special nicht veröffentlicht wird, gilt dieser Plot das Ei nach Icarion zu bringen gleichzeitig als eine Verzögerung und als eine Beschleunigung für Babidis Plan. Und das Ei von der Erde wegzunehmen könnte Babidi ausbremsen. Oder alles beschleunigen.
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iron leaf
2 Siječnja
It makes sense that Gero is in possession of Buu's cocoon. Unlike U18, Gero was not in the underground. Here, he had all the resources one could imagine on Earth. I assume that instead of Earth, the Alcmenian people were the victims of Buu's awakening in U7. I'm curious to see what happens next.
DB Multiverse page 2611
iron leaf
2 Siječnja
Ich mochte es schon immer, wie die einzelnen Panels tatsächlich so positioniert wurden, damit ihre oberen Ränder in die Mitte zeigen. Ganz anders als bei dem großen Panel aus Kapitel 88, mit ZenBuu vs Alle. DBM-Seite-2058.
DBMultiverse Colors page 474
iron leaf
2 Siječnja
Sieht beinahe so aus, als hätte Bulma ihr Outfit geändert. Und Thorn's Gesichtsausdruck, haha.
DB Multiverse page 2610
iron leaf
2 Siječnja
As on previous pages, I like the dynamic between Thorn and Bulma.
Hypothetically speaking, it's one of the few what-if scenarios where the “good guys” find the cocoon before Babidi does.
DB Multiverse page 2610
Damian Qualshy was saying:
I don't quite understand. If they actually found the cocoon, there's no reason not to do whatever they want with it, such as taking it somewhere else, just like Gast and Thorn originally wanted to do with the androids. Comic-P was saying: Damian Qualshy was saying: I swear to god if that's Buu, this guy attracts battles more than Goku. He's an actual magnet.
It's too soon! And even from the writing standpoint it's a bad choice to just jump straight back into another enemy.
It could easily just be the Seal thing he was found in, doesn't mean he's about to be freed. Nobody here knows that that is yet.
Could be, but there should be a room to breathe for the characters anyway. If they find the egg, that means Babidi will soon show up, because what else could they do? It's not like Gast can just take it somewhere else and Babidi has a GPS to the exact location of the egg.
It's too soon! And even from the writing standpoint it's a bad choice to just jump straight back into another enemy.
It could easily just be the Seal thing he was found in, doesn't mean he's about to be freed. Nobody here knows that that is yet.
Could be, but there should be a room to breathe for the characters anyway. If they find the egg, that means Babidi will soon show up, because what else could they do? It's not like Gast can just take it somewhere else and Babidi has a GPS to the exact location of the egg.
Hypothetically speaking, it's one of the few what-if scenarios where the “good guys” find the cocoon before Babidi does.
iron leaf
30 Prosinca
Roos was saying:
You've summed it up well.Super Gojita 3 was saying: Roos was saying: Super Gojita 3 was saying: siksteen was saying: Alien tech, that's all we need to know.
But it is pretty funny that they can do this and Shenron cannot. Although I dont think Shenron could transform humans into cyborgs either, so...
Like I said before, he can't do it without the androids consent
citing "against their will"
simply put, he can do it, but they were too strong to do unwillingly.
thorn has a way to get around that, and lets just say the androids who don't comply won't be turned back, but they won't be androids anynore either.
they'll be scrap metal.
No, he actually can't, partly because that would mean he couldn't remove the bomb without permission either. This was a mistake by the viz translators I think. Shenron only actually said that the Androids were beyond his reach of power, and that he couldn't interfere in the lives of beings beyond his capabilites.
"それはできない ふたりの人造人間は わたしの力を 大きく超えている の そういう カラダに関しては わたしは だ 手出しできないのだ かん し"
— > "That's impossible. The two androids far surpass my abilities. When it comes to their bodies, I simply can't do anything."
The fact he doesn't ask Android 18 who is there if he can reverse it, and every other translation of the media I've personally read or watched doesn't mention consent in regards to this scene is also supporting evidence this was a mistake. It's a bit ridiculous that he can't imo.
I just threw this in google translate, and all it really tells me is that they are too powerful.
"I can't do that. The two artificial humans are far beyond my power."
which is in line with how he handled the saiyans.
https://i.imgur.com/Ky35RPG.jpg
Basically the same thing. the saiyans surpass god, and can't be dealt with. the strength is the biggest factor here, and while its not canon to dbm obviously, they later did some really dumb things in later db canon where they had the db's effect 18 without asking her if it was kosher, as in turning her into a kid.
Yeah, someone needs to be fired for that blunder, but its not as though they couldn't do what vegetto suggested or close to it, as in just make a new human body, transfer the soul into that, and be done with it, even assuming that somehow the actual cyborg body was too strong to be altered directly. the db's seem able to revive 18 so I don't see them as being completely immune to them, all things considered
the wish for the bomb removal was allowed in the cell saga because it didn't harm or diminish them, which by my own admission seems a bit far fetched. it does diminish them because now they don't have an option if something else comes up.
Right, but the difference was the Saiyan's "power" refers to their personal strength, since Oolong wanted them defeated, and since Krillin wanted to change them back to normal, the Androids "power" refers to the technology they were modified with being far too complex for Shenron to understand, hence the "great and strange" part of his quote.
The wording used between these two make it understandable that the translators would make a mistake, since they thought they meant the same thing, but the nuances between them prove to be different.
Dr. Briefs, one the smartest people in the world, couldn't even fully comprehend Dr. Gero's blueprints, so it makes a bit more sense in that the knowledge that goes into the androids is too great for Shenron to do anything about it.
I don't think it's that big a deal for Thorn being able to reverse it, since he comes from a planet of scholars after all, and he's shown performing this kind of feat before, understanding how to fly Frieza's ship after a brief look(page 917.) the Elders of the planet even mention younger generations of their planet are quite intelligent due to their planet being a knowledge hub(Page 915.)
I think some people are just upset that he says it's easy to understand, or are annoyed at his arrogance which I get to a point, but he's grown quite a bit since then, so he's a great deal smarter than before, but still young, so he's a little cocky because of it. At the very least I could suspend my disbelief that he coild figure it out.
But it is pretty funny that they can do this and Shenron cannot. Although I dont think Shenron could transform humans into cyborgs either, so...
Like I said before, he can't do it without the androids consent
citing "against their will"
simply put, he can do it, but they were too strong to do unwillingly.
thorn has a way to get around that, and lets just say the androids who don't comply won't be turned back, but they won't be androids anynore either.
they'll be scrap metal.
No, he actually can't, partly because that would mean he couldn't remove the bomb without permission either. This was a mistake by the viz translators I think. Shenron only actually said that the Androids were beyond his reach of power, and that he couldn't interfere in the lives of beings beyond his capabilites.
"それはできない ふたりの人造人間は わたしの力を 大きく超えている の そういう カラダに関しては わたしは だ 手出しできないのだ かん し"
— > "That's impossible. The two androids far surpass my abilities. When it comes to their bodies, I simply can't do anything."
The fact he doesn't ask Android 18 who is there if he can reverse it, and every other translation of the media I've personally read or watched doesn't mention consent in regards to this scene is also supporting evidence this was a mistake. It's a bit ridiculous that he can't imo.
I just threw this in google translate, and all it really tells me is that they are too powerful.
"I can't do that. The two artificial humans are far beyond my power."
which is in line with how he handled the saiyans.
https://i.imgur.com/Ky35RPG.jpg
Basically the same thing. the saiyans surpass god, and can't be dealt with. the strength is the biggest factor here, and while its not canon to dbm obviously, they later did some really dumb things in later db canon where they had the db's effect 18 without asking her if it was kosher, as in turning her into a kid.
Yeah, someone needs to be fired for that blunder, but its not as though they couldn't do what vegetto suggested or close to it, as in just make a new human body, transfer the soul into that, and be done with it, even assuming that somehow the actual cyborg body was too strong to be altered directly. the db's seem able to revive 18 so I don't see them as being completely immune to them, all things considered
the wish for the bomb removal was allowed in the cell saga because it didn't harm or diminish them, which by my own admission seems a bit far fetched. it does diminish them because now they don't have an option if something else comes up.
Right, but the difference was the Saiyan's "power" refers to their personal strength, since Oolong wanted them defeated, and since Krillin wanted to change them back to normal, the Androids "power" refers to the technology they were modified with being far too complex for Shenron to understand, hence the "great and strange" part of his quote.
The wording used between these two make it understandable that the translators would make a mistake, since they thought they meant the same thing, but the nuances between them prove to be different.
Dr. Briefs, one the smartest people in the world, couldn't even fully comprehend Dr. Gero's blueprints, so it makes a bit more sense in that the knowledge that goes into the androids is too great for Shenron to do anything about it.
I don't think it's that big a deal for Thorn being able to reverse it, since he comes from a planet of scholars after all, and he's shown performing this kind of feat before, understanding how to fly Frieza's ship after a brief look(page 917.) the Elders of the planet even mention younger generations of their planet are quite intelligent due to their planet being a knowledge hub(Page 915.)
I think some people are just upset that he says it's easy to understand, or are annoyed at his arrogance which I get to a point, but he's grown quite a bit since then, so he's a great deal smarter than before, but still young, so he's a little cocky because of it. At the very least I could suspend my disbelief that he coild figure it out.
I think some people should refresh their memory and reread chapter 41.
That basically lays the foundation for Thorn as a character. The abilities his race has acquired and the start of his relationship with Gast, who has influenced him in a way.
Kururun was saying:
Let me put it this way. Think of Thorn and Gast as a duo. The Namekian is the heart and muscles, while the Alcmenian has the brains and know-how. It's reminiscent of a certain duo in Dragonball. The equivalent of Goku and Bulma. Of course, it's not an exact comparison, but the references are similar. Gast is the OP guy who beats everyone up and is only occasionally stopped for a short time, while Thorn is responsible for the solutions that have nothing to do with fighting. He was even the “damsel in distress” in the first U7 Special.Roos was saying: I think some people are just upset that he says it's easy to understand, or are annoyed at his arrogance which I get to a point, but he's grown quite a bit since then, so he's a great deal smarter than before, but still young, so he's a little cocky because of it.
This is just one Thorn wank moment among many, we might have to make a compilation of those. It happens like every three pages he appears in, or maybe two...
Ultimately it's just the writer's choice to make him look smarter and cooler than Bulma, her dad and even Gero. It's just not appealing, even moreso because they're important OG characters.
This is just one Thorn wank moment among many, we might have to make a compilation of those. It happens like every three pages he appears in, or maybe two...
Ultimately it's just the writer's choice to make him look smarter and cooler than Bulma, her dad and even Gero. It's just not appealing, even moreso because they're important OG characters.
In other words, Thorn now treats Bulma the way Bulma treated everyone in OG DB. A smartass who knows everything better. Believe it or not, Thorn is essentially no different from Bulma. The more people criticize his character, the more I believe that people simply have a fundamental problem with Bulma herself. Because it's normal and very typical for OCs to outshine legacy characters in fanfiction in terms of their expertise. Look no further than Gast vs. Cell and U18 (canon DBZ) vs. Cell. ;) 1 Replie(s)
iron leaf
29 Prosinca
Ammar was saying:
In addition, the third person from the left is Gero's assistant, whom we saw in a previous U7 Cell-Arc Special (on Page 2432). Apparently, she's an android too.I hope Colonel Silver survived too. If I remember correctly, we still don't know if died in the manga or not.
newhinhin was saying: The blond man who wanna kill them all in one blow..... is he the guy who almost killed Mr. Satan's dog in the universe we know of?
I knew he looked familiar!
Though, is that Barry Kahn next to him?
newhinhin was saying: The blond man who wanna kill them all in one blow..... is he the guy who almost killed Mr. Satan's dog in the universe we know of?
I knew he looked familiar!
Though, is that Barry Kahn next to him?
![[img]](https://i.postimg.cc/5N3gkGmC/2432.png)
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iron leaf
29 Prosinca
Oh, the Launch lookalike Android looks cute.
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DB Multiverse page 2609
iron leaf
29 Prosinca
Vash was saying:
In DBM, there are no Zenkai boosts for Saiyans who have reached SSJ. U7 Gohan already has SSJ, so no more Zenkai boosts for him.
Massive zenkai boost for Gohan?
iron leaf
29 Prosinca
Anthryrion was saying:
U7 Gohan hat die Ginyu Force nie getroffen. Vegeta hat sie allesamt getötet, um den SSJ zu erreichen (Seite 935). Ich wollte es bloß erwähnen. DBM scheint den Ansatz zu verfolgen, dass Gohan einfach diese Eigenschaft hat, sich gerne zu verkleiden. Ergo hat das Trauma auf Namek nicht wirklich eine so große Rolle bei der Erschaffung des Großen Saiyamans gespielt.
Ryuzaki_Doragon sagte: "Sein Kostüm ist cool" und alle im Chor dagegen. XD das ist typischer Gohan Charakter. Ne Vorliebe für seltsame Kostüme xD
Ich wette, das und die Posen hat er sich von der Ginyu Force abgeschaut^^
Ich wette, das und die Posen hat er sich von der Ginyu Force abgeschaut^^
iron leaf
29 Prosinca
Bulma hat schon eine besondere Pesrönlichkeit. Wir sehen ganz genau wie aufrichtig ihr Ausdruck ist, und dennoch kann sie es sich nicht verkneifen Thorn's Namen weiterhin falsch auszusprechen. xD
DB Multiverse page 2608
the dark wolf was saying:
Definitiv Krillin's Perspektive. In Panel 1 sieht man gleich neben seiner Augenbraue ein kleinen Effekt. Das signalisiert, dass Krillin gerade auf etwas aufmerksam wird. Und wir können davon ausgehen, Panel 2 ist genau das, worauf er aufmerksam gemacht wurde. Er sieht seinen alten Freund in Gohan. Sieht krilin in gohan goku oder wie soll ich die animation verstehen?
MajinGoku was saying:
Ich würde auf Quantität über Qualität tippen. Gero weiß, dass er "quasi" gewonnen hat, und er hätte letztendlich auch gewonnen, wenn Gast nicht aufgetaucht wäre. Es scheint keine große Anreize zu geben, Cyborgs zu produzieren, die um einiges stärker sind, als er selbst. Dann doch lieber am Fließband produzieren.
Oder er hat halt lieber auf Quantität statt auf Qualität gesetzt.
iron leaf
29 Prosinca
Oh mein Gott! Das Coverbild fängt die Stimmung dieses Kapitels unmissverständlich ein. Ein großes Lob an die Leute hinter den Kulissen, die daran gearbeitet haben. Super gemacht! Zweifellos eine überragende Verbesserung zum Originalcover vom Schwarz-Weiß Comic.
DBMultiverse Colors page 472
iron leaf
29 Prosinca
Das berüchtigte erste Flashback Kapitel. Ich mag Ouv (ehemals Taoipaipai) sehr und seine artistische Fortschritte sind enorm, wenn man dieses Kapitel mit späteren Werken vergleicht. Dennoch muss die Aussage erlaubt sein, der Stil wirkt hier nicht ausgereift. Ich bin gespannt das Kapitel mal in Farbe ein weiteres Mal analysieren zu können.
DBMultiverse Colors page 473
iron leaf
25 Prosinca
🎵Trainingsmontage🎵
Am Besten mit einer Hintergrundmusik. Sowas braucht man eigentlich öfters in Dragonball Geschichten.
Early dayz page 36
Am Besten mit einer Hintergrundmusik. Sowas braucht man eigentlich öfters in Dragonball Geschichten.
iron leaf
25 Prosinca
Ich muss Bros Goku zustimmen. Die Geschichte klingt sehr vertraut. xD
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Super Dragon Bros Z page 210
iron leaf
25 Prosinca
Ich mochte es damals wirklich sehr, wie Goku im letzten Panel gezeigt wurde.
DBMultiverse Colors page 470
iron leaf
25 Prosinca
Wirklich amüsant das Meer aus Pink zu sehen. Das musste man damals sich immer vorstellen xD
DBMultiverse Colors page 469
iron leaf
25 Prosinca
Chronos was saying:
It's just my headcanon, admittedly, but to me, SSJ2 seems to make the user mentally more arrogant than SSJ1 does. iron leaf was saying: Oh, the spectators have no idea what's in store for them in terms of interactive interruptions, lol.
I think it's great that the Saiyan transformations in DBM actually have different advantages and disadvantages and basically force you to strategize. I was never a fan of how often (both in canon and fanon) the weaker forms are rendered obsolete as soon as a new form is achieved. Far too often, it is assumed that the new form is identical to the previous one, except that it gives you a higher number.
Is there a benefit to sticking with SSJ1 over SSJ2?
I think it's great that the Saiyan transformations in DBM actually have different advantages and disadvantages and basically force you to strategize. I was never a fan of how often (both in canon and fanon) the weaker forms are rendered obsolete as soon as a new form is achieved. Far too often, it is assumed that the new form is identical to the previous one, except that it gives you a higher number.
Is there a benefit to sticking with SSJ1 over SSJ2?
In addition, I would say that the energy consumption required to maintain SSJ2 is higher than in SSJ1, but of course not as high as in SSJ3.
iron leaf
25 Prosinca
Da weiß jemand ganz genau welche Knöpfe man drücken muss. Das ist ein kleines Meisterwerk, die Zusammenstellung aller Mentoren von Goku in einem Bild, auch Grandpa Gohan. Das könnte man glatt als Poster aufhängen.
Promesse page 17
iron leaf
25 Prosinca
Merry Christmas to you all, I hope everyone is having a joyful holiday season.
I want to say something extra about the whole Cell vs. Gast fight. The U7 Cell Arc has been one of the best cohesive special stories in DBM so far. I am absolutely overwhelmed, and even though this chapter isn't completely finished yet, I am convinced that it will find a good ending/epilogue for the arc. New characters were introduced, with cool designs. OC and legacy characters interact with each other believably and create their own iconic dynamics. And the story was mostly captivating and exciting. The discussions were heated with a lot of debate, but the majority of the community behaved admirably during these specials. And the promised Cell vs. Gast battle was one of the most spectacular and longest fights in a special, in terms of choreography and twists, etc.
That said, I don't find the detail about the nucleus upsetting. Even though I personally would have written the story differently, I think this approach is absolutely fine. As ZenBuu wrote in his comment, Cell confirmed his intentions himself. Gero's creation also had the intention to spread terror across the universe in U7 once he was done with Earth. I would say this is a consistent character portrayal across all universes. It is in Cell's nature to behave this way. His hubris ultimately leads to his downfall, and it was only in U17 that he was incredibly lucky. If U7 Cell were to return, which I doubt, then this duel from the mini-comic between Gast and Cell should take place. lol
DB Multiverse page 2606
I want to say something extra about the whole Cell vs. Gast fight. The U7 Cell Arc has been one of the best cohesive special stories in DBM so far. I am absolutely overwhelmed, and even though this chapter isn't completely finished yet, I am convinced that it will find a good ending/epilogue for the arc. New characters were introduced, with cool designs. OC and legacy characters interact with each other believably and create their own iconic dynamics. And the story was mostly captivating and exciting. The discussions were heated with a lot of debate, but the majority of the community behaved admirably during these specials. And the promised Cell vs. Gast battle was one of the most spectacular and longest fights in a special, in terms of choreography and twists, etc.
That said, I don't find the detail about the nucleus upsetting. Even though I personally would have written the story differently, I think this approach is absolutely fine. As ZenBuu wrote in his comment, Cell confirmed his intentions himself. Gero's creation also had the intention to spread terror across the universe in U7 once he was done with Earth. I would say this is a consistent character portrayal across all universes. It is in Cell's nature to behave this way. His hubris ultimately leads to his downfall, and it was only in U17 that he was incredibly lucky. If U7 Cell were to return, which I doubt, then this duel from the mini-comic between Gast and Cell should take place. lol
iron leaf
25 Prosinca
The question of how Gast apparently knows about the Nucleus arises. I have to admit, I would have written it myself so that Cell survives, precisely because the nucleus is still somehow intact, secretly leaves Earth, later causes terror elsewhere in the universe, Gast meets Cell again, and in the final confrontation, the Namekian clearly learns about the nucleus. This would give more meaning to U10 Nail's statement at the beginning of the comic and explain why Gast aims so precisely at a specific spot on Cell Jr.'s head with just a single eye laser.
Nevertheless, I must also say that Cell's fight against Dabura in the DBM tournament actually provides enough clues for Gast. Cell decapitates himself to escape petrification and heals his entire body. Gast would know from this moment on, at the latest, that Cell alone with an intact head is capable of surviving.
![[img]](https://www.dragonball-multiverse.com/image.php?idp=1000123&lg=en&ext=png&pw=c00d2032754789e73c193b0e1631d99f)
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DB Multiverse page 2606
Nevertheless, I must also say that Cell's fight against Dabura in the DBM tournament actually provides enough clues for Gast. Cell decapitates himself to escape petrification and heals his entire body. Gast would know from this moment on, at the latest, that Cell alone with an intact head is capable of surviving.
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25 Prosinca
Damian Qualshy was saying:
I understand your sentiment, but I'm afraid people are taking Vegetto and Gohan's statements from the tournament fight between Gast and Cell Jr. a little too seriously. Page 490 suggests, of course, that Guest himself knows about Nucleus and attacks Cell Jr.'s core based on that knowledge. Perhaps we are reading too much into it, and Guest simply targeted the most likely spot to eliminate his opponent with a single attack. It's not too far-fetched to say that it makes sense to shoot between the eyes to try to kill your opponent. And besides, Gast also saw Cell's fight against Dabura, where the bio-android tore his own head off his slowly petrified body. It's pretty logical that whatever keeps Cell alive must definitely be in Cell's head.
The problem is, it doesn't explain how does Gast know about the nucleus of Cell if he killed him right here.
iron leaf
25 Prosinca
Wow. Gero hat das mit nur einem enzigen Angriff angerichtet. Selbstverständlich für einen SSJ-Powerlevel-Tier Kämpfer. Dennoch beeindruckend. Und natütlich ist Mr. Satan er selbst, haha.
DB Multiverse page 2606
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23 Prosinca
Damian Qualshy was saying:
Dying? A peculiar way to describe the heavenly Pillow upon which his head rests. 😆 Krillin, GOHAN IS DYING. I'd understand Bulma not caring but you?
kkk was saying:
Ah, the good old Dragon Ball had many good scenes like this.That old DB style celebration dance 😂 Wait, Gohan is getting lap pillow from Videl?!
Ok Gero and Cell are (presumably) dead, but what about the androids? Did they actually kill them all? Well, I guess if they have Gast and puppet 28 it won't be a problem.
Ok Gero and Cell are (presumably) dead, but what about the androids? Did they actually kill them all? Well, I guess if they have Gast and puppet 28 it won't be a problem.
![[img]](https://i.postimg.cc/bYVPKSyd/Screenshot-20251223-073228-Chrome.jpg)
I love the idea how in DBM Videl and Gohan are destined to find each other. No matter the circumstances. Even in the future timelines (U12, U14, U15), although there it's also tragic and sad.
And about the Androids. The chapter isn't finished yet, I guees, Gast will clean up or something like that.
iron leaf
22 Prosinca
Aus Helix' Handpose könnte man leicht einen Mittelfinger machen. lol
Das erinnert ein wenig an die Namek-Arc in DBZ, als alle mithilfe der Dragonballs von einem Planeten zu einem anderen teleportiert wurden.
Yamoshi Story page 151
Das erinnert ein wenig an die Namek-Arc in DBZ, als alle mithilfe der Dragonballs von einem Planeten zu einem anderen teleportiert wurden.
iron leaf
22 Prosinca
Ach, die arme Physalis! Leider wirkt die Szene etwas lustig, weil es so aussieht, als ob Yamoshi ihre Augenlider zuklatscht und nicht behutsam schließt.
Yamoshi Story page 150
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22 Prosinca
I would like to point out Cell's death sequence in Dragon Ball Z. There is a series of panels showing him slowly disintegrating due to Son Gohan's KI attack. It is afterward declared unequivocally that Cell is indeed dead.
Bunga and Salagir clearly referenced this scene from DBZ here, even showing the panel sequence of Cell's face slowly being deformed by the ki attack.
As some have already mentioned, this scene is definitely not meant to be reminiscent of Cell's suicide attempt, in which Cell ultimately survived thanks to his nucleus, but rather the outcome of Gohan vs. Cell Kamehameha-Beam.
![[img]](https://i.postimg.cc/nz7zKMdK/Cell-s-death.png)
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DB Multiverse page 2604
Bunga and Salagir clearly referenced this scene from DBZ here, even showing the panel sequence of Cell's face slowly being deformed by the ki attack.
As some have already mentioned, this scene is definitely not meant to be reminiscent of Cell's suicide attempt, in which Cell ultimately survived thanks to his nucleus, but rather the outcome of Gohan vs. Cell Kamehameha-Beam.
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22 Prosinca
Oh, the spectators have no idea what's in store for them in terms of interactive interruptions, lol.
I think it's great that the Saiyan transformations in DBM actually have different advantages and disadvantages and basically force you to strategize. I was never a fan of how often (both in canon and fanon) the weaker forms are rendered obsolete as soon as a new form is achieved. Far too often, it is assumed that the new form is identical to the previous one, except that it gives you a higher number. 1 Replie(s)
DBMultiverse Colors page 468
I think it's great that the Saiyan transformations in DBM actually have different advantages and disadvantages and basically force you to strategize. I was never a fan of how often (both in canon and fanon) the weaker forms are rendered obsolete as soon as a new form is achieved. Far too often, it is assumed that the new form is identical to the previous one, except that it gives you a higher number. 1 Replie(s)
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22 Prosinca
Ha, das ist wirklich gut. Der Humor trifft ganz genau die guten alten DB Witze. Gefällt mir sehr.
DB RED page 29
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22 Prosinca
As I can see, he continues to keep assorted lengths of wire in his drawer. ;)
Super Dragon Bros Z page 209
iron leaf
21 Prosinca
Mir gefällt die Rüstung von Turles sehr, und dann noch das Logo von Cooler's Spezialeinheit.
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Vegeta Tales page 56
iron leaf
21 Prosinca
Der schwarze Hintergrund sollte damals natürlich die Leere des Universums repräsentieren. Aber diese Effekte hier sind so viel besser. Jetzt ist ausgeschlossen, dass man es verwechselt. In der Schwarz-Weiß-Version hätte man auch davon ausgehen können, dass Vegetto sich in einer anderen Dimension befindet. Die Kolorierung ist wirklich wunderschön, vor allem Vegetto's Wutausbruch. Herrlich!
DBMultiverse Colors page 467
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21 Prosinca
Vash was saying:
Let's not forget that Gast only recently came up with this technique. It may be that it is not yet fully developed and does not suppress the opponent's energy 100% in this first use against U7 Cell. If we let our imagination run wild, it wouldn't be too far-fetched to think that Gast neglected Cell's tail a little bit when applying his technique.
SSJMoltenbud was saying: I guess the absorption needle can be activated reflexively by the body like a insect's stinger when stimulus is provided, access to ki or no.
But without the backup of powerful ki, no way for the stinger to penetrate the skin of a ki-powered foe
But without the backup of powerful ki, no way for the stinger to penetrate the skin of a ki-powered foe
iron leaf
21 Prosinca
Cell's Gesichtsausdruck, als ihm klar wird, wie schlimm seine Lage ist. Und der Shchweif, der direkt auf Gast zusteuert. Hervorragend gezeichnet von Bunga.
DB Multiverse page 2603
EL-MACHINO was saying:
Aura und Rizz sind das neue "Cool". So wie es mir erklärt wurde, haha.
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Deutsche Eiche sagte: Gast ist einfach Piccolo Aura mal 100!
Hilf nem Mann über 30...bitte was is er?
Hilf nem Mann über 30...bitte was is er?
iron leaf
19 Prosinca
Jetzt habe ich Lust wieder The Mandalorian zu gucken, haha.
Kakodaiman: the Return of Cashman!! page 42
iron leaf
18 Prosinca
Ich fand die Szene mit Shin und Süd Kaioshin immer so lustig. Echt gut gemacht. Und die Farben sind gut geworden. Ich habe im S/W Comic nie darüber nachgedacht, wie viel Pink am Ende eigentlich zu sehen ist.
DBMultiverse Colors page 466
iron leaf
18 Prosinca
It was only years later that I realized that Babidi was the only one who was truly gagged. That was when the MR-Arc came to an end. There, ZenBuu also gagged Babidi. This can mean nothing and it's probably just Buu liking to torture Babidi. Although, it can serve as foreshadowing that ZenBuu actually has no counter to the Majin sealing spell. Preventing the spell from being cast in the first place is the best way to protect yourself from it. Of course, this has never been confirmed, so it remains a hypothesis. But I like to think that's the case.
DBMultiverse Colors page 465
iron leaf
18 Prosinca
Ach, ich liebe diese Seite. Bei U18 spielt Teamwork tatsächlich eine große Rolle. Und die beiden Buus, haha, witzig.
DBMultiverse Colors page 465
iron leaf
17 Prosinca
Let's wait until Gohan finds out that Goku has died for the second time.
Promesse page 14
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17 Prosinca
I couldn't help but think back to the mini-comic-page-111. It suggests that Cell would eliminate Dr. Gero once he reached his perfect form. He sees Gero as nothing more than a means to an end.
Salagir seems very certain that Cell, regardless of the major changes between the universes, will always have the urge to kill his creator when the opportunity arises. In this case, by destroying the planet.
DB Multiverse page 2600
Salagir seems very certain that Cell, regardless of the major changes between the universes, will always have the urge to kill his creator when the opportunity arises. In this case, by destroying the planet.
iron leaf
17 Prosinca
Das ist wirklich heftig. So, wie Gast seinen Arm blitzschnell regeneriert und eine große Ki-Attacke vorbereitet, wirkt es fast, als hätte sich der Große Grüne stark zurückgehalten, um absichtlich auf eine Gelegenheit zu warten, bei der er diese Technik problemlos ausführen kann.
DB Multiverse page 2602
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17 Prosinca
YellNinja1600 was saying:
I think you're referring to this chapter with the limited screen time for Cell and Gast so far. However, I must refer you to chapter 107, in which a large part of the chapter is devoted to a spectacular battle between Gast and Cell. I am very surprised by your comment, which suggests that this was a short battle. I must say the opposite, that it was possibly one of the longest single fight in a special in the entire DBM.This is fastest I have seen cell defeated since Pikkon.
siksteen was saying:
I think Gast specifically mentions Namekian because he may have based this technique on it. Perhaps he experimented with his own KI to find out how it could be deactivated from outside using this technique. Since Cell carries Namekian cells within him, he is the best guinea pig. Based on this experience, Gast continued to refine the technique until it worked on everyone who emanates KI or, as XXI said, has a soul. Of course, this is just my hypothesis.Then again, what does that have to do with him having Namekian genes?
jonathan_vik was saying:
Do you really assume that it always goes according to standard "Dragonball" procedure? Well, maybe a little bit of Future Trunks from the Mecha-Freeza Arc seems to be present in Gast.
And in typical Dragonball fashion, this is where everything goes completely sideways and Gast will have to desperately fight for his life. It'd be silly for Cell to die this easily.
iron leaf
17 Prosinca
Einfach wunderschön. Genau sowas haben wir lange gebraucht. Ein weiteres Wiedersehen zwischen Goku und Gohan.
Promesse page 13
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16 Prosinca
We can assume that Gast does not mean that Cell is “easy to read." A quick Google search tells me that it has something to do with the Bible. Strange. But then also something along the lines of... “an opportunity.” As if Gast wanted to say that Cell, due to his Namekian characteristics, offers an opportunity to apply a new technique.
This indirectly reminded me of “Attack on Titan,” where there is a similar scene in which one character uses another character like a key to open a door (metaphorically speaking).
It is basically a form of power neutralization. It may be that we are just now learning about the origin of this technique. A technique that originated from being used on someone with a similar biology as Gast himself. Someone with Namekian biology. This was then apparently refined over the following 20 years until the DBM tournament, so that it works on any living being. The limitation until the end seems to be that the opponent must have a soul. As we learn later in the fight against XXI.
DB Multiverse page 2601
This indirectly reminded me of “Attack on Titan,” where there is a similar scene in which one character uses another character like a key to open a door (metaphorically speaking).
siksteen was saying:
Is that supposed to be the same technique from page 1825 ?
Jack Bz was saying:
mulled_piss was saying: Females was saying: I was wondering when he would pull out this move.
what move is it? I can't recall a time when a Namekian can freeze another Namekian
This is like, Gast's signature move. He used it on Boo and Vegetto (and it failed against XXI).
Though it is an interesting implication if it used to only work on namekians before he honed it further.
what move is it? I can't recall a time when a Namekian can freeze another Namekian
This is like, Gast's signature move. He used it on Boo and Vegetto (and it failed against XXI).
Though it is an interesting implication if it used to only work on namekians before he honed it further.
瘦布欧 was saying:
Looks like Gast is doing something similar to page 1825; however, it sounds more like he is doing something that taps into Namekian biology.
It is basically a form of power neutralization. It may be that we are just now learning about the origin of this technique. A technique that originated from being used on someone with a similar biology as Gast himself. Someone with Namekian biology. This was then apparently refined over the following 20 years until the DBM tournament, so that it works on any living being. The limitation until the end seems to be that the opponent must have a soul. As we learn later in the fight against XXI.
iron leaf
14 Prosinca
Ah, das ist die berühmte Seite, auf der U9 Bulma fälschlicherweise erscheint, die zu diesem Zeitpunkt buchstäblich nur auf diesem einen bestimmten Cover zu sehen war. Natürlich darf man Bardock's Vision mit ZenBuu nicht vergessen. Und das Foreshadowing bezüglich Karbonit – obwohl chronologisch gesehen Son Bra gegen Eleim vor Cold gegen Bardock stattfindet und Karbonit in diesem Kampf eingesetzt wird, ist es uns Lesern noch unbekannt.
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DBMultiverse Colors page 464
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14 Prosinca
Ich frage mich, wenn wir hier Asuras Versionen der Vargas angewendet hätten, wäre es dann Sei gewesen, die auf dieser Seite verzweifelt versucht hätte, den Knopf zu drücken?
DBMultiverse Colors page 462
iron leaf
14 Prosinca
Der Beginn eines weiteren Running Gags. West Kaioshin wird immer ins Gesicht geschlagen. Hier bei ZenBuu's Ausraster. Dann zu Beginn des MR-Arcs mit Dabura und während des Körpertauschmordes im MR-Arc.
![[img]](https://i.postimg.cc/nVHpyF0R/com-ironleaf1-West-Kaioshin.jpg)
DBMultiverse Colors page 460
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14 Prosinca
@Cell surviving in space
Gero mentioned that Cell is based on anthropods, and there are several cases of arthropods (primarily insects) that can survive long periods without oxygen by relying on anaerobic metabolism and other adaptations (e.g. Tiger beetle larvae). These durations are often extended at lower temperatures, where metabolic rates slow dramatically. Applying real science in DB usually goes against the rules of shonen anime, but I wanted to mention it.
DB Multiverse page 2600
Gero mentioned that Cell is based on anthropods, and there are several cases of arthropods (primarily insects) that can survive long periods without oxygen by relying on anaerobic metabolism and other adaptations (e.g. Tiger beetle larvae). These durations are often extended at lower temperatures, where metabolic rates slow dramatically. Applying real science in DB usually goes against the rules of shonen anime, but I wanted to mention it.
YellNinja1600 was saying:
I have to agree with that. It's not unusual for characters to be able to protect themselves in the vacuum of space once they reach a certain power level. As we know, this must be much stronger than a simple SSJ1. Neither Goku SSJ1 in DBZ nor Ancient Hanasia SSJ1 in DBM were/would have been able to survive in space despite SSJ1. Gast and Cell currently appear to be much stronger.
YellNinja1600
iron leaf
14 Prosinca
Cell sieht im letzten Panel wirklich furchterregend aus. Großartige Arbeit von Bunga. Ich kann immer noch nicht fassen, dass Cell tatsächlich Gast im Kampf besiegt hat. Der Namekianer muss wohl zu Tricks zurückgreifen oder so ähnliches.
DB Multiverse page 2600
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10 Prosinca
Females was saying:
I bet we will find out on the next page about the context.Ah so Videl is still alive. Im curious what Bulma is referring to in the last panel.
UltraExtream was saying:
Bulma has always had a knack for bossing everyone around her. It wasn't just Son Goku. With some, she was more successful than others. I have to admit, I also like the dynamic between Thorn and Bulma. The Alcmenian is already part of the U7 Z-Fighters, whether he likes it or not, haha.
Thorn and Bulma has a good dynamic. I bet that's the reason he stays behind to help out Bulma.
iron leaf
9 Prosinca
chedruid was saying:
Dr. Gero revels in memories of his long-dead wife for a second too long. What's happening?
We don't know exactly what is standing in front of him at the moment. It could be either Puar or Oolong. Maybe an illusion or a robot. Some people have correctly deduced that it must definitely have something to do with Thorn and Bulma.
Thorn uses this brief moment of Gero's inattention to pull off the same maneuver he used on #28 on page 2426. The surprise attack seems to be a complete success. To be precise, Thorn has connected a device to the energy-absorbing palms, which in turn causes a short circuit in these models of androids.
While with #28 a makeshift device was cobbled together in a hurry, in Gero's case, it appears to be a practical little device that was probably co-developed at Bulma's base.
Kamahamaho was saying:
It may seem that way. However, I prefer it because it introduces a plot point early on (causing a short circuit in the androids and stealing their energy). Now it doesn't seem like it came out of nowhere, since this approach has already been introduced.
So, Gero enters the hero's lair similar to how android 28 did, and he is defeated the exact same way that 28 was defeated. This was very anti-climactic.
iron leaf
9 Prosinca
Irgendwie muss ich an die 1970er denken, wenn ich Gero im Flashback sehe. haha.
Also wird hier bestätigt, dass es sich natürlich nicht um die echte Vomi/Android 21 handeln kann. Und Gero hat das sofort durchschaut, allerdings waren diese Millisekunden der Verwirrung genug für Thorn, um zu handeln. Der gleiche Trick wie bei C28.
DB Multiverse page 2597
Also wird hier bestätigt, dass es sich natürlich nicht um die echte Vomi/Android 21 handeln kann. Und Gero hat das sofort durchschaut, allerdings waren diese Millisekunden der Verwirrung genug für Thorn, um zu handeln. Der gleiche Trick wie bei C28.
iron leaf
7 Prosinca
To be honest, I don't like Android 21.
I have a certain aversion to DBM doing this. The idea that Gero had a wife sounds logical, of course. And maybe DBM simply incorporated the fact that Gero had a wife named Vomi. And if nothing else was taken over except that Vomi was also a scientist, then that's fine with me. The whole plot of FighterZ is much more fan fiction to me than actual fan fiction. 3 Replie(s)
DB Multiverse page 2596
I have a certain aversion to DBM doing this. The idea that Gero had a wife sounds logical, of course. And maybe DBM simply incorporated the fact that Gero had a wife named Vomi. And if nothing else was taken over except that Vomi was also a scientist, then that's fine with me. The whole plot of FighterZ is much more fan fiction to me than actual fan fiction. 3 Replie(s)
iron leaf
5 Prosinca
This is possibly one of my favorite pages in DBM now. One of the best villain introduction scenes ever. So cool.
That's exactly what I always imagined if Gero were the main antagonist of an arc. As we know, Toriyama's editor allegedly urged him to replace Gero and A19 with other villains because Clown and Old Man were supposedly boring.
Gero is truly terrifying and competent in this scene. Imagine Piccolo Daimao ruling for more than just a day. 1 Replie(s)
DB Multiverse page 2595
That's exactly what I always imagined if Gero were the main antagonist of an arc. As we know, Toriyama's editor allegedly urged him to replace Gero and A19 with other villains because Clown and Old Man were supposedly boring.
Gero is truly terrifying and competent in this scene. Imagine Piccolo Daimao ruling for more than just a day. 1 Replie(s)
iron leaf
5 Prosinca
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Vegeta Tales page 49
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iron leaf
3 Prosinca
Sollten die Pupillen in SSJ nicht etwas „grüner” sein? Nun, vielleicht bin ich hier nur pingelig. Insgesamt eine sehr schöne Seite.
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DBMultiverse Colors page 458
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3 Prosinca
Yeah, I'm pretty sure that even without Cell, King Kai would have died sooner or later because of Goku. Cause of death: ruptured aneurysm.
Promesse page 8
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3 Prosinca
Axadro was saying:
Ich möchte mich dieser Meinung anschließen und offiziell sagen, dass ich die Übersetzungsarbeit von ZenBuu wirklich sehr schätze. Übersetzen ist im Allgemeinen kein besonders beneidenswerter Job, aber die besondere Sorgfalt, mit der Witze sinngemäß übersetzt werden, verdient großes Lob. Vielen Dank für die harte Arbeit. Ich lese bei der deutschen Version mit, auch wenn ich nicht immer Kommentare hinterlasse.
Hört sich nach der richtigen herangehensweise für eine Übersetzung an, also große Daumen hoch.
iron leaf
3 Prosinca
Videl! No! This is so exciting, but please don't kill our heroes.
@Bunga
It has been a pleasure reading your chapters so far. I truly can't wait to see the finale. Great work so far.
DB Multiverse page 2594
@Bunga
It has been a pleasure reading your chapters so far. I truly can't wait to see the finale. Great work so far.
iron leaf
3 Prosinca
KingGarland was saying:
Well spotted. That could really be it.Legan is it? Rearrange the letters and we get Angel and fitting name for a companion of Mark/Mr. Satan.
Koshej was saying:
I must admit, it would be somewhat amusing if Hercule first met his future sister-in-law and, through her, the future mother of Videl. Assuming it is Mr. Satan.
Or it's her sister, which would be really funny.
iron leaf
3 Prosinca
Oh, Tenshinhan hat es geschafft. Allerdings sieht er aus, als würde er gleich den Löffel abgeben. Hätten sie doch nur nicht Chiaotzu alle Senzubohnen zur Verwahrung gegeben.
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Saigo no Son page 148
iron leaf
3 Prosinca
Also das trifft mich jetzt wirklich. Selten fiebere ich mit OC so sehr mit, und bange um ihre Sicherheit. Physalis ist mir wirklich ans Herz gewachsen. Zumindest konnte sie sich verabschieden. Future Trunks hatte diese Chance in der Cell-Arc nicht.
Yamoshi Story page 146
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3 Prosinca
Sayazur was saying:
Das klingt einleuchtend. Du hast mich überzeugt.
iron leaf sagte: Normalerweise landen solche riesigen und modifizierten Raumkapseln nicht an den Stützpunkten der Frostdämonen. Vegeta kann von Glück reden keine Bruchlandung hingelegt zu haben.
Das ist der Kaiserpalast des größten Imperiums der Galaxis, nicht einfach ein Hauptquartier.
Er kann alle Arten von Raumschiffen aufnehmen (militärische, diplomatische, Freizeit-, private usw.).
Das ist der Kaiserpalast des größten Imperiums der Galaxis, nicht einfach ein Hauptquartier.
Er kann alle Arten von Raumschiffen aufnehmen (militärische, diplomatische, Freizeit-, private usw.).
iron leaf
3 Prosinca
Ah, das ist bisher so erfrischend. Ich habe mich immer gefragt, wie die Landschaft von Dai Kaio's Reich aussieht. Wir haben immer nur gesehen, wie die auserwählten Kämpfer mit ihrem jeweiligen Kaio trainieren oder das "Other World" Turnier. Bis jetzt gefällt es mir gut.
Promesse page 7
iron leaf
3 Prosinca
Sie sollten am Besten alle nach Hause fliegen, sonst bleibt der Affenboss am Ende allein.
DB RED page 21
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3 Prosinca
This could explain why Salagir recently asked readers which Piccolo they thought was killed by Son Bra in the MR arc, and when. Probably so he could insert the apparently correct Piccolo in panel 3.
Minicomic page 137
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3 Prosinca
Vielleicht interpretiere ich zu viel hinein, aber was wäre, wenn Thorns Abschied auf dem Cover auch im Special praktisch dasselbe bedeutet? Das würde heißen, entweder stirbt Thorn in diesem Kapitel oder er verlässt Gast auf seiner Abenteuerreise und kehrt zu seinem Heimatplaneten zurück. Wir werden sehen. Hoffentlich stirbt der junge Alcmenianer nicht wirklich, aber die üblichen Storybeats könnten das in diesem Fall durchaus möglich machen.
DB Multiverse page 2593
iron leaf
1 Prosinca
Oh, I really like how all four Gast Cell-Arc Specials are basically reviews of Earth from a tourist's perspective. Good at first, but steadily getting worse. Haha. I really hope Thorn doesn't die in this chapter.
DB Multiverse page 2593
iron leaf
30 Studenoga
I don't want to coerce the discussion to stop. However, I should mention that there is no in-universe reason why Son Bra has a inconsistent appearance in the original vision on page 732. There is no twist. It is quite frankly just a mistake on the part of the creators.
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DB Multiverse page 2592
iron leaf
30 Studenoga
Onibak_So was saying:
Oh wow, das ist ja ein total süßer Name und die Skizze ist der absolute Hammer. Danke fürs Teilen. :)
iron leaf sagte: Ja, Flugbegleiterinnen sehen immer super süß aus. :)
Her name is Uzu :)
Here is an exclusive sketch of the air hostess of paradise !
Her name is Uzu :)
Here is an exclusive sketch of the air hostess of paradise !
iron leaf
30 Studenoga
Sie dachten ernsthaft, es würde ein Spaziergang im Park werden.
DB RED page 20
iron leaf
30 Studenoga
Die Seite wirkt, als würde man sich von Gohan/Nasu verabschieden. Ich befürchte er wird es nicht überleben.
Saigo no Son page 147
iron leaf
30 Studenoga
Ah, eine Terminator Referenz. Dann verstehe ich die vorherige Seite und warum ein Polizist absichtlich alles in die Luft jagen würde, während einer Verfolgungsjagd.
Kakodaiman: the Return of Cashman!! page 38
iron leaf
30 Studenoga
Er sollte nicht vor einer Frau wie ein Weichei rüberkommen. Wenn das wirklich die 2 Figuren sein sollen, von dem alle ausgehen, dann frage ich mich wie diese sensible Art beim Typen später quasi ganz verloren geht.
Early dayz page 26
iron leaf
30 Studenoga
Normalerweise landen solche riesigen und modifizierten Raumkapseln nicht an den Stützpunkten der Frostdämonen. Vegeta kann von Glück reden keine Bruchlandung hingelegt zu haben.
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Vegeta Tales page 47
iron leaf
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Ganz ehrlich, ich finde die vorherige Mini Comic Seite besser.
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Minicomic page 137
iron leaf
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Der ist sowas von Tod. Er weiß es bloß noch nicht.
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Yamoshi Story page 145
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Both Kid Buu and Freeza can casually blow up entire planets. We rarely see such a feat in DB, but that doesn't mean characters like the cyborgs, Cell, Dabura, etc. wouldn't be capable of it. As long as you're stronger than 1st form Frieza, something like that (as much as it sounds unfortunate on a narrative level) shouldn't pose much of a problem in wiping out an entire civilization. 1 Replie(s)