So the XXI smoke follows the soul, not the body. Interesting.




I would like to repeat what I mentioned on the previous page.
Gohan was never a truly clever fighter. Most of his victories came from his rage boosts, which allowed him to sweep through his opponents like a brawler. I think too many people overestimate Gohan. There are plenty of examples in DBZ where he failed to anticipate a tactic or technique he was already familiar with.

In the Buu Arc, we have two good examples of how Gohan was easily outwitted by his opponents. The idea that Gohan is too smart and attentive to fall into any traps is a myth. This is a belief held by people who think Gohan should be the absolute best, someone who never makes a mistake.

In DBZ, Gohan saw how Dabura’s Stone Spit had petrified Krillin and Piccolo. He should have been fully aware that Dabura could use that move at any time during a fight. Nevertheless, Gohan didn’t dodge the spit, and Shin had to warn him a second time.

Against Super Buu, Gohan clearly saw the demon absorb Gotenks and Piccolo. Especially in a situation where he was at a disadvantage. Nevertheless, when Gotenks defused inside Buu, and Buu was at a disadvantage and clearly worried—the situation almost identical to before—it didn’t occur to Gohan that he should remain vigilant in this situation, regardless of whether he knew what was going on or not.

Gohan’s character flaws continue in DBM as well. He knows that Majin Bra constantly uses IT/KaiKai in battle. And yet, Gohan repeatedly attacks Bra with a regular punch, which she dodges with ease.



DBM insinuates that the Ginyu-Force (at least Jeice and Baata, since Recoome is still in the healing tank) are inside the space ship during the lunch break and the fight between Son Bra and Cold. See page 1164. 3 Replie(s)

No, it's not.

Was bitteschön meinst du damit? Sobald Gohan hört, dass jemand um Hilfe ruft, eilt er sofort herbei, während die Ginyu-Truppe den Typen am Boden bedrohlich anstarrt. Natürlich ist Gohans erster Impuls, zu versuchen, den Kleinen zu retten. Ehrlich, wenn Gohan das nicht täte, wäre ich sehr erstaunt und würde eher nach OCC Moment rufen.


Warum würde Ginyu den Namekianer anvisieren, wenn er Gohan's Körper klauen könnte. XXI und seine Verbündeten wissen noch garnicht, dass Namekianer für den Schutz vor dem "Life-Skip" verantwortlich sind. Wir Leser wissen das, aber nicht die Bösewichten. Noch nicht.


Gute Frage. Ich vermute Ginyu hat sich absichtlich so hingelegt, damit man seine Beine nicht sieht. Vielleicht ist der Rauch im Moment, nur im unteren Körper zu sehen.


Es soll warhscheinlich extra so aussehen, als würde er eben nicht mehr wie Freeza's erste Form aussehen. Damit es deutlicher rüberkommt, dass es womöglich eine weitere Reduktionsform ist.

On the topic of Gohan.
He was never a truly clever fighter. Most of his victories came from his rage boosts, which allowed him to sweep through his opponents like a brawler. I think too many people overestimate Gohan. There are plenty of examples in DBZ where he failed to anticipate a tactic or technique he was already familiar with.

On the topic of Cold's body.
This is clearly Cold here, but it’s very unlikely that it’s his 3rd Reduction Form (aka Freeza’s form from his first appearance on Namek).

On the topic of Ginyu’s body swap.
Serious question. Has anyone ever dodged the body-swap beam in DBZ? Do we even know if it’s a technique that can be dodged, or if the only way to block it is by putting a substitute body in the way? Because in DBM, body swaps have always been considered a guaranteed hit so far. Vegetto dodged it, but only because he used another body as a target instead.

On the topic of Namekian Safety Bubble.
The villains shouldn't know at all that the Namekians are responsible for the heroes' ability to survive The Frozen. The U13 Saiyans never had the chance to report to XXI. #17 (and #18) may have seen the battle without being detected, but what would he have told XXI and the others? That Pan, Vegeta, and Luska had to stand together so that all three wouldn’t be frozen. The villains assumed it must have been an object. There was no direct clue linking Pan to the Namekian. That means Ginyu shouldn’t even have thought of initiating the body swap with the Namekian, since he wouldn’t know that Luska’s responsible for the heroes’ safety. And taking the risk of targeting the Namekian over the obvious powerhouse Gohan would be pretty foolish, unless he’d read the script or a reader had told him about it before the page was published.

I suspect that Recoome, Baata, and Jeice didn't know anything about Ginyu's plan to switch bodies—or did they? He probably just told them to stand there and look menacing.


I doubt it. Freeza's first form clearly has horns that are similar to those in his second form (just on a larger body). Cold's second form has horns similar to Freeza's. That's why I think Cold's first form must also have horns similar to Freeza's. This figure here only has small bumps. That's pretty interesting. Maybe it’s a Spectator Frostdemon. Ha. 1 Replie(s)

It might be hard for some to believe, but Piccolo kidnapped Gohan. That’s a fact. It’s also true that this later developed into a friendship over the course of their lives, but that doesn’t change the fact that Gohan first met Piccolo when he was kidnapped by him.

The Stockholm Syndrome thing is a joke. Please don’t take it too seriously. And no, this isn’t an attack on Goku or the fandom’s belief that Goku is a bad father. It simply points out that Goku wasn’t present, i.e., he was dead—when Gohan was kidnapped.


That's true about the power-up related to XXI's smoke. Still, I think it'll be more of an MR-Arc situation, where it'll only be relevant in cases where people are on the verge of achieving a new transformation. Like with U8 Frieza and the 5th Form. Other than that, I don't think it'll be mentioned again.


Yes, on page 2492. 1 Replie(s)

Freezer's Hauptquartier, definitiv das. Haha. Also die Witze in diesem Comic sind eigentlich schon sehr gut. xD

Oh hey, da ist ja Tama. Die schwarze Katze von Dr. Briefs. Ist das süß.

Naja, irgendwie haben beide Recht. lol

Hey, genau wie in „Hancock“. Anstatt dem fahrenden Fahrzeug durch einen Sprung, indem er fliegt oder was auch immer, mühelos auszuweichen, steht er einfach da und lässt sich anfahren. Haha

Did he kill all surviving evil Saiyans? Who spread the legend of him?

SSJ Cumber, huh. Vielleicht wird noch ein richtiger Charakter aus ihm.

If there's a Namekian Stockholm, I wonder if they also have a Namekian equivalent to the Earth's United States. 😂




And look at what Mystic Gohan does to Fat Buu, who is once again much stronger than Cell from the 'Cell Games'. See Page 1572.


You're absolutely right. I rounded it up in the worst possible way.


The thing is, it's not that time has been frozen. Life has been frozen. Gohan knows that detail, and that's why he wouldn't use that kind of wording. 2 Replie(s)

Das Outfit vom Namekianer sieht doch recht besonders aus. Dieser Kragen mit dem symmetrischen Muster lenkt einen Quasi von allem anderen ab, haha. Und jetzt haben wir anscheinend einen weiteren U1 Therapie-Namekianer wie Luska für Pan und Vegeta, haha. Auch sehr nettes Detail mit den Ansteckplaketten für die beiden Gohans. Wir wissen jetzt zumindest, dieser ist von U16. Es scheint, als würde man Gohan in eine Falle locken wollen. Bin gespannt.

The Namekian summed it all up succinctly.
I really hope this new Namekian gets a role as cool as Luska's with Pan and Vegeta. I wonder if he'll get a name, too.


Actually, that seems incredibly ridiculous by today’s standards. But we mustn’t forget. The Ginyu Force is, in fact, among the top 1% of the strongest beings in the entire universe (in almost all of the DBM universes). For the vast majority of supporting characters, a confrontation with them would be a sure death sentence. We don’t know how strong the Namekian is. On his own, without Gohan, he would certainly lose. 2 Replie(s)

Welch ein Zufall, wie keiner der Ginyu-Force das Ende des Kampfes zwischen King Cold und Son Bra mitangesehen hat, oder keine Flashback Erinnerungen über die MR-Arc gesehen hat, die ZenBuu via Telepathie bereitgestellt hat. Denn sonst hätten sie natürlich deutlich erkannt, wie Cold die bekannte Körpertausch Technick von ihrem ehemaligen Boss angewendet hat.

Perhaps Asura is following Recoome's hairstyle from the DBZ movie 'Fusion Reborn'.




Yes, Ginyu has mastered power level sensing and the ability to vary his own power level. He had already done so long before he stole Cold's body. See Page 1317.


That's right, on page 1250, Freeza explicitly ordered everyone out of the room before he let Coola in on the secret that Ginyu was alive and had, as it turned out, been inside Cold's body. Additionally to what 瘦布欧 was saying.





Yes, the hair does look different here, but it’s been that way ever since Asura first drew Recoome on page 1344. And honestly, when I look back at Gogeta Jr.’s pages from the Recoome vs. Nail fight, it looks different from how it did in DBZ, too. Maybe Recoome really is the only member of the Ginyu Force whose hair has changed over the decades.

What a brilliant idea to use the text boxes’ arrow directions to create an effect. Ginyu is upset to hear that, but here it looks as if these comments are literally impaling him. Great visual gag. You certainly wouldn’t see anything like that in Modern DB these days. 1 Replie(s)

Muss gestehen, damals mochte ich diese Seite nicht. Hier begann Asura langsam mit solchen Komedie-Gesichtsausdrücken. Inzwischen ist das Teil seines Zeichenstils und das war auch immer Teil von Dragonball allgemein. Dennoch wirkte ausgerechnet dieses Trio hier sehr gezwungen lächerlich, was mir nicht gefiel.

Die Raumschiffe der Varga haben hier ein natürlich einheitliches Design, seit Beginn des DBM-Colors Comics. Und es sieht auch gut aus. Dennoch, aus persönlicher Erfahrung, habe ich damals ach schon kolorierte Seiten von den Varga Raumschiffen gesehen, lange bevor DBM Colors begann. Die Farben damals waren ganz anders und das ist ein großer Kontrast für mich, weil ich die alten Farben noch im Kopf habe.

Das ist nicht Arckou, auch nicht Sei, oder Susu, oder Uuv. Ein neuer Varga? Wir brauchen einen Namen für diesen blauen Vogel.

Gast hat sich tatsächlich blutig schlagen lassen, nur für ein kleine Herausforderung. Er wollte wohl auch seine Schwäche in den Griff kriegen, indem er sich absichtlich damit konfrontieren lässt. Wie Goten hier eingesetzt wird ist auch mega lustig. Guter Einsatz von Nebencharakteren.

Kaio macht gerade Film-Lore kanon für DBM, haha. Ich muss gestehen, ich habe lange Zeit nicht gewusst, dass Pfeifen als Schwäche für Namekianer lediglich in einem einzigen DBZ-Film als Plot genutzt wird, und sonst nie wieder.

Some people have good ideas. Here are some possible reasons why U8 is now collecting spectators for XXI: As a source of sustenance for XXI. As leverage to persuade Moori to cooperate. To forge alliances with XXI, just as he did with U13, U8, and U14 (after all, there were plenty of evil audience members). Or, generally speaking, as hostages, since XXI already knows that the good guys have survived and are rallying against him.

Hey, that's the spectator with the SSJ3-looking hair from page 2457. I hope she doesn't get devoured by XXI and loses her sould forever.

Ironisch wie das Ginyu-Squad quasi inkompetente Trottel sind. Obwohl sie als Spezialkommando eingeführt wurden. Haha. Irgendwie mag ich die Dualität. Einerseits sind sie für normale Menschen im DB-Universum extrem gefährlich; andererseits gehören sie zu den lustigsten Gruppen der Serie und haben eine wirklich harmonische Dynamik.

Lady Di ist wirklich erstaunlich, und ich fange an sie wirklich ins Herz zu schließen, als neue aufregende OC von DBM. Sie ist eine interessante Figur, die mich auch etwas an "Lila" aus dem Fanmanga Dragonball AF erinnert. Auch die Tatsache, dass sie einen Heiligenschein hat, und eigentlich tot ist, finde ich ebenfalls super faszinierend.

I have a feeling this duo is really going to shine here in the main story. I can't wait.


That's an interesting thought. But you have to keep in mind that in DBM Canon, Bibidi created Majin Buu. And in most universes, Bibidi succeeded because the universe was able to grow and flourish. It's unlikely that Bibidi in U5, if he was ever born at all, would have even gotten around to creating Majin Buu due to XXI's antics in the universe's history.


Lady Di paused deliberately when she said that last part. It could mean a lot of things. I suspect she remembered having felt that sense of empathy herself at one point, and that’s why she lingered on the memory for a second. Or she believes that Moori’s empathy might help her in some way to choose a specific method of torture.


I think this kind of subjugation is completely different from the Majin enslavement spell. Hopocus seems to enjoy his role, and it was probably much easier to enslave him. As for the Kaioshin, I honestly suspect she won't show much emotion or any reaction at all if XXI is finally eliminated.


Wow, looks good.


If U4 Buu uses a time machine, he will certainly travel back to a version of the timeline without Vargas. The uniqueness of U1 will ensure that U4 Buu can never encounter U1 Vargas through time travel.

Wow, the way the former Dai Kaioshin is portrayed really gives you goosebumps. Does anyone else get “Lila” vibes from Dragon Ball AF? A former good Kaioshin who (almost) gave her life fighting an evil demon, only to be corrupted by malice after many millions of years. And to top it all off, she’s currently threatening a creator of a Dragon Ball set. The similarities are impressive in a way.




I think Moori is making an educated guess that this Kaioshin, whom he automatically assumes must be good, like all of her kind, is acting strangely here, and that’s why he believes it has something to do with manipulation. And Moori’s experience from the DBM tournament tells him that Buu (U4) might be the most likely candidate to be involved. It sounds unlikely, but given everything the U1 Namekians have been through in the last few days, he thinks he shouldn’t completely rule out the possibility that Buu has reappeared and is manipulating an unknown Kaioshin. 3 Replie(s)

Hopocus und die weibliche Dai Kaioshin! Das ist fantastisch. Habe nicht erwartet, die so schnell nach dem XXI-Kapitel bereits in der Hauptgeschichte zu sehen. Asura's Zeichenstil sieht wirklich mega gut aus mit den beiden.

Yeah, Hopocus and Lady Di are making their debut in the main story. That must seem a little confusing to readers who skip the specials and flashback chapters entirely.

Oh, poor Moori, he has no idea who he’s dealing with and thinks he’s saved the moment he sees a Kaioshin. But you can't blame him for drawing the wrong conclusions in this situation.

One detail is really fascinating: Moori, of course, makes an educated guess that it must be a version of Dabra, and Hopocus immediately references the U11 Dabra from the DBM tournament. However, Hopocus has never seen him in person. That would mean XXI probably also relayed all information about the DBM Tournament to his personal slaves, similar to what he did with U8, the U13 Saiyans and the U14 Androids using the smoke.

Ah, poor Moori. He's in for some terrible torture. Hopefully he'll be rescued in time.

Well, let's not forget that Dragonball has used real-world references for jokes before. In the OG DB, when Ninja Murasaki hides, Goku finds him right away because Murasaki accidentally swapped the sheet with the USA flag for the one with a tree pattern.



I think You might take this a little too seriously. Zenbuu already responded to that on the previous page. The battle outfits among the Z-Fighters are very similar, especially since many of them are following in Goku's footsteps. You'll probably be able to see the small but subtle differences more clearly in terms of color. (In the future, if DBM Colors catches up to this page) 1 Replie(s)

Diese Seite wollte ich schon immer in Farbe sehen. Wie Oberteufel Piccolo seine Ohren abreißt, wird auf ewig in mein Gedächtnis eingebrannt bleiben. Das kam damals wirklich sehr unerwartet.

Und schon ein Raubüberfall, jetzt werden sich Bell und der große Saiyaman wahrscheinlich gleichzeitig auf den Weg machen, um die Diebe aufhalten zu wollen und aufeinander prallen. Wäre definitiv witzig.

Und bald ist das ganze Geld weg. xD

Innerhalb von zwei Seiten eine Menge übersprungen. Ok. Die Konfrontation zwischen Videl und dem Mörder ihrer Mutter war anscheinend der plottechnische Höhepunkt der Geschichte. Wir befinden uns wohl im Epilog. Die Videl Sachen haben mir sehr gefallen in diesem Comic. Allerdings bin ich kein Fan von der irreführenden Timeline, denn die Fakten aus Dragonball widersprechen sich stark mit dennen aus diesem Comic. Als bestes Beispiel klar wann Videl geboren wurde. Nichtsdestotrotz ist das ein sehr netter Comic. Bin gespannt was noch auf uns zukommt.

Ich kann mir schon vorstellen, was die beiden machen, haha.

Ah, Pan und Videl sind einfach so süß. Ich bin froh, mehr von der humorvollen Seite von Dragonballs zu sehen und das ausgerechnet mit diesen Beiden.

Pan, as a young teenager, is of course familiar with K-Pop Demon Hunters, haha. And Videl, embarrassed by the previous mix-up, suggests a way to tell the remaining look-alikes apart. But why does Videl also get the number 16? Her counterpart has, unfortunately, already passed away. Well, maybe Piccolo did it because she specifically asked for it. 2 Replie(s)

Vegeta sollte mal endlich das Blut aus seinem Gesicht auswaschen.

Bulma sieht auf dieser Seite echt gut aus. Gefällt mir.

Einfach legendärer Humor. Wir brauchen mehr davon, haha.

As in any shonen anime series, there comes a point where, after thousands of pages and dozens of chapters, the main characters are finally allowed to change their outfits. Haha. No, of course we’ve all seen them in different clothes before, for example, during their nighttime rest. Still, in a way, this is a turning point for Goten and Trunks in DBM. Since the beginning, we’ve almost always seen them in their regular street clothes, even during the tournament battles when the fusion had dissolved and they were fighting separately. Or even during Goten’s role in the MR Arc. Now that’s over, and from here on out, everyone’s getting something new. I think that’s really great. For a long time, I’ve been wondering when our Z-Fighters would get new outfits. Now I wish Goku and Vegeta would wear new outfits too. That way, DBM can put its own stamp on things, rather than just relying on nostalgia.


Yeah, unfortunately, that seems unlikely. His EoZ outfit isn't necessarily any more comfortable than the orange gi. That's why it would seem illogical just to change the colors of his clothes specifically for Goku.


I think Gohan looks like he wants to take the situation seriously, and that's why he's making that kind of face.


Salagir once suggested, among other things, that it was because Goku's and Vegeta's outfits from the Buu Arc are more iconic, and that's why they were preferred over the EoZ (battle) outfits. And since that decision was made, there hasn't really been a good opportunity or a real reason to change their outfits in the course of the story. Hopefully it will happen soon after all, now with the new XXI-Arc happening.


Well, to me, it seems more like Piccolo gave them outfits that are very similar to the ones they wore in the Buu arc, not necessarily Goku or Vegetto. But I have to admit, the outfits often look very similar to one another. 1 Replie(s)

Die beiden Videls und Gohans sind einfach nur zuckersüße Pärchen, selbst als Erwachsene. Und die andauernden Verwechslungen sind wirklich toll und lockern herrlich die Stimmung auf.

Immer wieder scheint der gute alte Dragonball Humor hindurch. Das fand ich schon witzig, wie anscheinend alle Überlebenden es 'halten' mussten, bis endlich eine Toilette eingerichtet wurde, haha.

U18 Videl kissed U16 Son Gohan during the MR Arc. Now U16 Videl is kissing U18 Gohan. And at the beginning, there was that little mix-up between the U18 and U16 Gohans and Videls. Oh, I'll tell you, deep down, Videl really likes it. Haha 1 Replie(s)

Indeed, this is the spectator from Chapter 100. In that chapter, he tried to make out with a female Zarbon Race OC. Apparently, this very Dodoria Race OC survived. (See Page 2356)


Interesting. That's already got me curious. Thanks for the input.

But as mentioned, based on the preview, the sign definitely refers to the prison for the U13 Saiyans.

Silly Sei, that's not how you write the Roman Number 4. 4 Replie(s)

Stop getting triggered just because of Son Bra. She's not even on today's page!

Mary Sue vs Big Gete Star 🤭😂 2 Replie(s)

Die Schattierungen und Farben in Panel 1 sind unglaublich. Toll gemacht.

This page is quite informative.
Poran is quite limited in what he can do for XXI. A lifeless planet is apparently the maximum amount of matter he can create per wish. All life is officially gone in U5, and that was long before U1 Vargas appeared.

Yeah, Videl handling the U13 Saiyans. Perfect, I love it. xD
I'm glad to hear that we're getting another chapter of XXI. There are definitely some aspects that could use a little more attention.

Ich muss 'High School! Kimengumi' mal endlich nachholen. Scheint sehr beliebt zu sein, Salagir scheint die Serie definitiv zu mögen. :)

I'd go so far as to say that this actually makes more sense than the original. Here in the parody, you even assume that it makes no sense. In the original, it's just baffling to watch why the two of them end up together.

Das nenne ich mal einen epischen Auftritt. Diese Seite fand ich immer sehr gut umgesetzt. Der SSJ für U3 Vegeta sieht echt gut aus.

Der Meta-Gag ist sehr witzig, das muss man zugeben. Die Autorin erklärt es im englischen Kommentarbereich dieser Seite.

Hey, Yamoshi kopiert einfach Bardock. Na, hoffentlich hat er auch eine Vision von der Zukunft. xD

Da setzt jemand klare Prioritäten. haha

That really touches me.
Videl has always been my favorite female character in DB. But somehow, Maruyama managed to make me appreciate her even more. That encounter with her mother’s killer in prison was truly very emotional. It shaped Videl as a character, and I’m grateful for that. Truly outstanding work, both artistically and, above all, in terms of the writing. 2 Replie(s)

Vielen Dank, Sayazur. Vegeta-Tales war wirklich unterhaltsam. Ich freue mich schon auf deine zukünftigen Projekte, insbesondere auf „Invasion Arc“, das sehr vielversprechend klingt. Ich wünsche dir weiterhin viel Erfolg mit deinen anderen Comics.

Nun, ich finde tatsächlich, dass diese Seite unendlich episch aussieht. Die Vorstellung, dass XXI die Anführerin des Kaioshin-Reiches, den Dämonenkönig, die Verkörperung allen Bösen in der Hölle und alles Gute im Himmel als seine persönlichen Diener versammelt hat – das klingt für einen Bösewicht wirklich episch.

Und ich finde auch, dass das absolut zu XXI’s Charakter passt. Er hat immer den einfachen Ausweg gesucht und andere für sich kämpfen lassen. Das gilt sowohl für das DBM-Turnier als auch für die U5-Hintergrundgeschichte. Man mag sich fragen, ob XXI tatsächlich klug handelt, wenn man bedenkt, dass er sich sein eigenes Grab geschaufelt hat, indem er alles im Universum verschlungen hat. Allerdings kann man XXI als Bösewicht keinen Vorwurf machen, wenn man bedenkt, dass die beliebtesten Charaktereigenschaften der Bösewichte in Dragon Ball „Arroganz“, „Impulsivität“ usw. sind. XXI ist trotz all seiner Schwächen und Macken immer noch viel berechnender und klüger als die Mehrheit der Charaktere in DB (sowohl Antagonisten als auch Protagonisten).

This chapter reminds me a lot of Chapter 25. And you can draw parallels between them. With the U1 Kaioshins, we’re often shown a compilations of their conflicts in one-page summaries. It’s similar here with XXI, where we’re only shown the background and who XXI encounters in his backstory, not how he defeats them. But I have to admit, I’d love to know how XXI wins.

Here's something else that caught my attention. Lady Di has the Z Sword. It's super epic, of course, but since when has she had it? Did she pull it out of the ground, like Gohan did in DBZ? Or did XXI dispel the enchantment so she could pull it out easily, or did XXI provide it for her in the first place?

On Plot Armor and XXI’s Success:
Alright, there’s definitely a heavy dose of plot armor at work here. That said, the real reason XXI managed to survive and dominate for so long was his strategy of enslaving the strongest champions and forcing them into his service.
Because without the magicians’ failure, XXI would likely never have wished for those precise hacks and power-ups. Without those specific upgrades, he probably wouldn’t have won the rematch against Lady Di. Without Lady Di as his minion, he would have lost to Hopocus. Without Lady Di and Hopocus by his side, defeating Janemba would have been impossible. And without that growing army of Lady Di, Hopocus, and Janemba, victory against Thorn’s father would have been completely out of reach.
In short, it was a true domino effect. All of it tracing back to his initial enslavement of the champions. It makes XXI’s run impressive in its own way, but it also shows just how reliant he was on this strategy.

The most epic page on DBM.

Man kann deutlich Kakarot's Wahnsinn erkennen. In der S/W-Version ist mir nie aufgefallen, wie seine Hände in Panel 1 und Panel 2 zittern. Es schüttelt ihn buchstäblich, weil er keine Fake-Saiyajins töten kann. Die U13 sind doch alle verrückt.

Blut spritzt, Knochen fliegen!

Auf der vorherigen Seite einmal Vegeta's Cousine und Gerkin in den neuen U3 Saiyajin-Rüstungen, und hier einmal mit den typischen Freeza-Force Rüstungen. Netter Kontrast und nett ihre Farbmuster zu sehen.

So that’s him. The opposite of Janemba. What would you call him?

Janemba comes from “Janen” (Japanese for “evil/abominable”) + “ba” (monster/demon). He is, so to speak, the embodiment of pure evil, born from the accumulated negative karma and the evil souls of hell. The logical counterpart would be something with “Zen” (善 = good/pure/virtuous).

So Zennoba = “good/virtuous monster/being.”


I have to admit, the angel wings are a bit much and don’t really fit with Dragon Ball in general. And just like with Cold’s 6th Form, the extra pair of arms was unnecessary.

However, I do like the overall vibe it gives off. I imagined bright white-and-gold colors for myself, different from Janemba’s red-purple. A halo-like aura. The face would be friendly and wise, almost like a mix of a grandfather and a god (think of a mix of King Kai, Supreme Kai, and a Super Saiyan with a pure heart). And I think I can make out the facial structure of an Alcmenian (Thorn’s race). Which would make sense, since this race is likely common in heaven and could therefore play a part in the design. 2 Replie(s)

Vegeta's Cousine sehen wir in Special Kapitel 14 noch einmal. Das war Seite-293 vom Hauptcomic. Gerkin sehen wir in diversen Saiyajin-zentrierten Specials wieder. Unter anderem kämpft er gegen Hanasia um den Thron in U3 (Siehe Seite-1466)

Vegeta's Angriff sieht einfach sehr viel sauberer aus. Das ist ein gutes visuelles Indiz dafür, dass Vegeta seine Energie besser in einen Angriff bündeln kann.

Das bekannte neuzeitige "Skill Issue" passt ideal für Hopocus. xD

Ah, Shin's bekannte Telekinese. Das ist wohl eine besondere Fähigkeit unter den Kaioshin, die anscheinend all kennen.

Wirklich sehr beeindruckende Zeichnungen. Großes Lob an Steve, den Zeichner.

Auf ewig die gehirngewaschene Sklavin deines größten Widersachers zu sein. Lady Di's Schicksal ist wirklich sehr herzzerreißend. Es ust wie ein Stich ins Herz, als sie XXI mit Meister anspricht. Auch wenn Salagir diesen Aspekt vermutlich nicht besonders hervorheben wollte, berührt mich diese Szene mit der Kaioshin dennoch zutiefst.

Das ist der Vorteil von XXI's quasi Unsterblichkeit. Er hat alle Zeit der Welt. Und Mit genug Zeit, kann man jeden Willen und Verstand brechen.

Mir gefällt es sehr gut, dass Daburas Vorfahr ebenfalls in dieselbe Kategorie wie der Dämonenkönig aus DBZ eingeordnet wird. Er hat ein ernstes Auftreten und ein entsprechendes Design. Viel zu oft werden in Dragon Ball die Erwartungen umgekehrt, indem der ältere/stärkere Bösewicht tatsächlich der kleine Kerl mit dem lustigen Design ist.

Das muss eines der schlimmsten Schicksale sein, die einer rechtschaffenen Person wie der Kaioshin widerfahren können.

Panel 1 könnte man glatt als Kapitel-Cover ausgeben oder als Bildschirmschoner verwenden oder sogar als Kunstwerk in einem Museum aufhängen. Seine bedrohliche Präsenz macht das ganze erst so richtig beeindruckend. Und Enma's Gesichtsausdruck in letzten Panel finde ich persönlich genial gezeichnet. Man erkennt den Terror in seinen Augen. Er weiß es ist vorbei jetzt.

Run Enma, run!

Like Saso said, it's just a nickname. To be honest, I was tired of constantly typing “Female Dai Kaiosin” or “Ancient Grand Supreme Kai” in the chat. So I decided to cut it short.


One could also put forward the theory that Janemba (as mentioned by Gast in the DBM tournament) doesn’t have a soul per se. Perhaps the entity that devours XXI needs a soul. Probably not, though, since XXI devours everything, including dimensions, etc.
The most likely scenario is that XXI considers Janemba a useful asset, similar to how he views the Kaioshins and the Demon King.


It’s also quite possible that XXI is acting insidiously and will devour them all at the right moment or turn them into his puppet fighters. After all, he recruited U8, U13, and U14 during the tournament, so he certainly wanted to be as discreet as possible. Furthermore, one might argue that XXI is so worn out after millions of years that his power to enslave someone like Lady Di and Hopocus has been exhausted, and he might not be 100% certain of success. The risk is too high; the tactical approach of recruiting via an alliance (for now) sounds quite reasonable.

Das Dream Duo aus Kaioshin und Dämonenkönig besiegen gemeinsam die Verschmelzung allen Bösens aus der Hölle. Einfach genial. Ausnahmsweise wünschte ich, wir würden den Kampf sehen, nicht nur die Zusammenfassung. Und Janemba sieht richtig krass aus. Respekt an Steve.

I think this pairing of Lady Di and Hopocus is brilliant. Both leaders of their respective realms essentially serve as manipulated puppets for XXI. In a way, they’re opposites of each other, and yet they’re working together to defeat a clearly stronger enemy. I’m so curious to see if and when we’ll get to see them in the main story. It also makes sense why he’s kept both characters from us, assuming they’re still alive by the time of the DBM. He’s holding onto his trump cards and saving them for later. And in Lady Di’s case, it would only draw unwanted suspicion from the U1 Kaishin.

It’s also very fascinating what DBM is doing with Janemba. According to the plot, as far as we know, he only exists in U5. Apparently, no other universe has experienced a similar incident with the Soul Purification Machine. But given the battle with Gast Carcolh, we can speculate a bit about how strong U5 Janemba is and, by extension, how strong XXI is. However, we probably shouldn’t rely too heavily on traditional power scaling when it comes to XXI.


Think of it more as a summary of many events, similar to Chapter 25. The difference is that instead of being for U1, this time it's a much longer version for U5. 1 Replie(s)

Also das Kapitel erinnert mich ein wenige an Kapitel 25. Dort wurde ähnlich eher eine Zusammenfassung der Ge­scheh­nisse gezeigt, als eine einheitliche Geschichte. Hier werden ebenfalls nur einzelne wichtige Wendepunkte erwähnt, aber nie richtig ausgeweitet.

Wow. The visuals look incredible. The two champions from XXI are facing off against Janemba. First, the leader from the Kaioshin Realm; then, the king from the Demon Realm; and next, the amalgamation of all the evils from hell. XXI has truly assembled an extraordinary and impressive lineup of fighters. I just wish he had more than just these three. 1 Replie(s)

I have a hunch that Salagir might not be very fond of Janemba’s design or concept, which is why he jumps straight to Super Janemba instead—the transformation that most fans probably associate with Janemba. Of course, the movie suggests that Janemba and his transformation mimic Buu in a certain way, since the Buu arc was still relevant during the film’s production. Fat Buu = Fat Janemba; Super Buu = Super Janemba.


That would explain why the U18 Z-Fighters didn't recognize Janemba during the tournament match between Gast and XXI. They've never encountered Janemba in their universe.


If I remember correctly, Fat Janemba transformed into Super Janemba after Goku hit him directly with an attack and presumably injured him severely.

As for the soul-purification machine, I suspect that XXI's attempt to devour Hell caused some kind of malfunction in the machine. Whether the machine was full of souls or not is a matter for debate.


Don't forget that this chapter focuses entirely on XXI's backstory. Unlike the previous one, which treated the Kaioshins as the chapter's secondary focus, this one is all about XXI (and Poran) and how he became the character we'll meet later in the DBM tournament. And since XXI is an exclusive DBM OC, and on top of that a character who comes across quite differently from what’s typical in fanfiction, it’s no surprise that this chapter feels a bit different from typical Dragon Ball. Unfortunately, I can’t give you any advice other than to just accept it as it is. 1 Replie(s)

So that’s why Poran would say that all the time (during the DBM tournament) when talking to XXI. Really consistent writing. I like it.

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Poran is awesome. I wonder if, in future stories, he'll try to team up with the Z Fighters if the opportunity arises.

Wow, der Effekt für die KI-Attacke in Panel 5 ist unglaublich. Man kann noch die Laufbahn der Attacke am Effekt erkennen. Und das Blut hat auch mehrere Schichten an Rot-Tönen. Wirklich sehr beeindruckend.

It seems Hopocus isn't dead and I guess XXI will impison him like he did with the Dai Kaioshin.


Good idea, but I'm afraid XXI needs something like KI to truly feel saturated. He said something similar during the semifinal match against Gast. An empty planet probably wouldn't be the same as one filled with millions of living beings. 1 Replie(s)

Das Charakterdesign hat Steve (der Zeichner) richtig gut drauf. Allesamt sehen spektakulär aus. Zu schade, dass wir sie nie wieder zu Gesicht bekommen. Poran hat auch langsam einen echt witzige Persönlichkeit entwickelt. Allerdings kann ich ihn verstehen, der muss sich auf ewig mit XXI auseinandersetzen.

How quickly did that spit stone spell get reset? That could easily give the nanobots in the Ultra Heloites’ bloodstream a run for their money, lol. Nevertheless, XXI would naturally use a wish to find a solution to the problem.

It seems like these figures are all Hopocus’ Demon Goons. Demon Lords, so to speak, who serve only the Demon King. And now that he’s been defeated, they’re trying their luck on their own. Just my take on it.

Fascinating, it only took XXI 26 million years to devour the Demon Realm, or maybe we’re just finding out now, since Poran has gotten pretty sassy, haha. I like it.

"Fish out of water" Geschichte ab jetzt. Jetzt fehlt nur noch, dass er irgendwie verhaftet wird oder zufällig einen der andere Z-Fighters trifft.

Echt hübsches Motorrad.

Yamchu und Puar haben eine so gute Chemie miteinander. So wie Han und Chewbacca und viele andere Geschichten mit einer Figur und einem tierischen Begleiter. Echte Freunde eben. Einfach schade, was das Fandom und die Serie aus denen gemacht hat.

Ach, die gute alte Videl. Genau so, wurde sie uns vorgestellt. Freut mich.

Die Korruption des absoluten Bösen. Ha, ich habe mir schon immer vorstellen wollen, wie dieses Konzept visuell aussehen könnte. Ist ziemlich schwer, vom "Guten" korumpiert werden. Faszinierendes Konzept. Ich wünschte, wir könten mehr von U3 Oberteufel Piccolo zu sehen bekommen.

Das Cover ist auch wirklich süß. Mit dem Mädchen im Hintergrund, die von Piccolo anscheinend gerettet wurde. Quasi eine ungewollte, gute Tat vom Oberteufel.

If they act fast, they’ll turn the spaceship around and get out of there as quickly as possible. Of course, they don’t stand a chance against an SSJ, but maybe Vegeta really is a little worn out.

They picked the absolute worst possible moment to return. Their master is dead, and the rival who might have hired them if they’d helped is dead. Just bad timing, haha. Also, nice call back to page 108. 1 Replie(s)

Oh man, so ein Perversling. 1 Replie(s)

Das ist doch ne Abzocke. 2 Wörter am Tag? Panorashi leidet bestimmt nicht an Aufmerksamkeitsdefizit-Hyperaktivitätsst­örung, Huh, würde das für ihn als ein Wort oder zweit Wörter gelten? Haha.

Respekt an Vegeta. Das hat er wirklich grandios alles selbst geschafft.

Einfach unglaublich atemberaubende Zeichnungen. Dieser Tritt ist so beeindruckend.