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That's our boy, Yamcha! I knew the Earthlings wouldn't be weak here.
Saigo no Son page 50
kcheeb was saying:
kkk was saying: Stop explaining stuff to your enemy, Trunks!
So this timeline is the result of Beerus erasing Zamazu? It was a bit ambiguous when Whis explained it in Chapter 1. Still, I don't understand how erasing the Zamasu who would eventually become Goku Black can lead to a Goku Black existing in the future. My bet is that something else happened (in addition to Beerus erasing Zamasu) causing a Goku Black to still exist, and arrive earlier than in the original future.
It can't be the timeline where zamasu was eliminated by beet us. That happened in main timeline
I don't think authkr knows what he's doing
So this timeline is the result of Beerus erasing Zamazu? It was a bit ambiguous when Whis explained it in Chapter 1. Still, I don't understand how erasing the Zamasu who would eventually become Goku Black can lead to a Goku Black existing in the future. My bet is that something else happened (in addition to Beerus erasing Zamasu) causing a Goku Black to still exist, and arrive earlier than in the original future.
It can't be the timeline where zamasu was eliminated by beet us. That happened in main timeline
I don't think authkr knows what he's doing
There are always two Zamasu. This one hasn't recruited his immortal partner yet. The one that was meant to be the immortal is the one that was erased by Beerus. 1 Replie(s)
Zefarg was saying:
No Frost Demon DNA, but MF is cocky as hell still...
Vegeta's genes carrying I guess, even tho the superiority talk of this kind is more so Frieza's thing
Vegeta's genes carrying I guess, even tho the superiority talk of this kind is more so Frieza's thing
Nope. This is definitely from Vegeta and his proclamations of Saiyans being the ultimate Saiyan race, his whole Elite vs low class thing, and believing he was the Super Saiyan.
Frieza didn't care to flaunt his strength or superiority. He was just a specist. 1 Replie(s)
This new Cell is gorgeous. Get that bug man a modeling contract! I really like the choices you've made with the design. He really looks like a Namekian Bug hybrid.
DB Multiverse page 2479
Lol Goten really said he's not gonna play the power level game with us.
Saigo no Son page 47
Girl Buu was saying:
SoyBear was saying: I do think there is something sweet in how proud the Sayains, but especially Nappa, seems to be of Nasu. Probably something there about the older Sayain General being happy he got to see a new generation sprout up at least one more time.
I recall in the manga Nappa's immediate reaction to hearing about Gohan was to enthusiastically suggest cross breeding with the Earthlings to recreate the saiyan race.
Vegeta shot it down because of how much stronger Gohan was than Goku during the Raditz fight "Would you want a bunch of brats stronger than us running round before they even hit puberty?" or something like that.
Though that idea might make a funny (horrifying) harem anime.
I recall in the manga Nappa's immediate reaction to hearing about Gohan was to enthusiastically suggest cross breeding with the Earthlings to recreate the saiyan race.
Vegeta shot it down because of how much stronger Gohan was than Goku during the Raditz fight "Would you want a bunch of brats stronger than us running round before they even hit puberty?" or something like that.
Though that idea might make a funny (horrifying) harem anime.
I had an idea for a What If where Nappa survived and due to his Saiyan nature found a brothel and become its bodyguard and eventual procurer and becoming a father of many half-Saiyans in the process.
Lol that reminds me of that Lex and Justice League panel.
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Chimpzy was saying:
Nice page, but in my opinion the English translation could use a little work. It's a bit awkward and too literal. Here's what I would suggest:
Panel 1
Krillin: "It's as I thought! There's four of them!
Vegeta: "Bravo, you can count." (I think putting it this way comes across as Vegeta insulting Krillin, which fits his Saiyan Saga personality better)
Panel 2
Yamcha: "Then the young one must be Goku's son?"
Panel 3
Vegeta: "That's right, Nasu is the son of Kakarotto. We made him into a true Saiyan, free from Earthling weaknesses. (there's no 'true' in the original French, but it feels like something Vegeta would say)
Panel 4
Nappa: "Oh yeah, and don't even think about trying to turn him to your side. Nasu is one of us now. He spent way more time with us than with you."
Panel 5
No notes, this one's fine.
I think this sounds more natural and flows better. Feel free to disagree, of course.
Panel 1
Krillin: "It's as I thought! There's four of them!
Vegeta: "Bravo, you can count." (I think putting it this way comes across as Vegeta insulting Krillin, which fits his Saiyan Saga personality better)
Panel 2
Yamcha: "Then the young one must be Goku's son?"
Panel 3
Vegeta: "That's right, Nasu is the son of Kakarotto. We made him into a true Saiyan, free from Earthling weaknesses. (there's no 'true' in the original French, but it feels like something Vegeta would say)
Panel 4
Nappa: "Oh yeah, and don't even think about trying to turn him to your side. Nasu is one of us now. He spent way more time with us than with you."
Panel 5
No notes, this one's fine.
I think this sounds more natural and flows better. Feel free to disagree, of course.
I agree with this.
GOHEEZY was saying:
King Kindred was saying: Gohan looks sick. I'm glad he's alive, but I was wishing he was with Gero.
I don't understand why the humans would lie to Gast about Gohan being alive.
Bc Goheezy was the only threat to Gero’s power and the only chance the humans had at survival. If Gero knew Gohan was alive, the humans would have been relentlessly targeted by Gero. Instead, Gero focused on expanding its empire with ease of mind
I don't understand why the humans would lie to Gast about Gohan being alive.
Bc Goheezy was the only threat to Gero’s power and the only chance the humans had at survival. If Gero knew Gohan was alive, the humans would have been relentlessly targeted by Gero. Instead, Gero focused on expanding its empire with ease of mind
That's the reason to hide his existence in general. Not from Gast who they know they can trust and is powerful enough to take on the androids. 1 Replie(s)
The King Sadala/Broly plot still doesn't make sense. Their universe has an equivalent to Broly, Kale, and they have her hanging around hoodlums with no issue. Him attacking Broly wouldn't make sense, especially since he was training to control his power.
DB Blancoverse page 109
Gohan looks sick. I'm glad he's alive, but I was wishing he was with Gero.
I don't understand why the humans would lie to Gast about Gohan being alive. 2 Replie(s)
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I don't understand why the humans would lie to Gast about Gohan being alive. 2 Replie(s)
Someone better throw an attack next page.
The Earthlings can sense ki. Tien doesn't look concerned at all, but it's weird that Krillin is already sweating. I'm going to really be disappointed if these 10 years of training amounted to nothing. 1 Replie(s)
Saigo no Son page 44
The Earthlings can sense ki. Tien doesn't look concerned at all, but it's weird that Krillin is already sweating. I'm going to really be disappointed if these 10 years of training amounted to nothing. 1 Replie(s)
Greenfox was saying:
Sooo bullets hardly scratched kid Goku's skin when he was first introduced.....and now Goku black, who is millions or even billions times stronger than start-kid-Goku is bleeding from a shotgun bullet.....sure a shotgun bullet has more impact than the pistol Bulma used at the start of Dragon Ball....and the bullet could even be enhanced to do more damage....but did I mention yet that Goku black is millions or even billions times stonger than start-kid-Goku?
Oh and please don't mention Goku and Krillin getting hurt by bullets in Dragon Ball Super because that's just as odd to me...I cut those clips out of those episodes.
Yes I know, power scaling is BS and bla bla bla....and maybe my opinion is not popular, but I don't think Goku black would bleed because of any type of gun bullet.
Oh and please don't mention Goku and Krillin getting hurt by bullets in Dragon Ball Super because that's just as odd to me...I cut those clips out of those episodes.
Yes I know, power scaling is BS and bla bla bla....and maybe my opinion is not popular, but I don't think Goku black would bleed because of any type of gun bullet.
What part of their durability comes from focused defense do y'all not understand? When they are not focused on defending they're vulnerable. That's how it has always worked. Vegeta explained this whole principle on Namek. Saiyans aren't built like Frieza's race. They're flesh and bone reinforced by ki. They're built to take damage naturally. That's how Goku despite reaching god levels was taken out by a tiny laser ring.
And you cut those bullet clips from Super but in both instances they're scratched by the bullets like Black is here(who doesn't even have Goku's full strength by this point). 3 Replie(s)
This is funny. I'm in a multiverse DBZ roleplay where my Saiyan ended up being turned into a carrot by Master Carrot. Used her carrot body to super spin out of a hand.
DBMultiverse Special OAV - Broly Final War page 79
The Broly plot just doesn't make sense. Why would he abandoned in another universe after learning to control his rage and strength and why would the King send assassins after his guest when the Universe 6 Saiyans are good?
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DB Blancoverse page 105
I still don't think this is Gohan. I understand why others do, but even in the way that this Super Chicken just brutally ran through this Android. Even when full of despair in the future timeline Gohan wasn't this brutal. He actually has friends and a resistance group here.
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vnass412 was saying:
Wow,so they weren't even training together? That's pretty poor strategy.
Only within the last year. They trained for as much as they could together but realized they still had to live their own lives.
Socks is a cool name for Yamcha and Bulma's kid to differentiate him from Trunks. 2 Replie(s)
Showing Broly what it's like to have friends and dumping him on a random moon in another universe bringing him back to a life of solitude was a strange direction to take for his story. What about Cheelai and Lemo?
DB Blancoverse page 104
There's no way that's Gohan. Without the time chamber he's younger than Videl and he still wasn't that tall in the Cell Saga.
This could just be DBM having fun with Super Chicken since they showed up in the End of Z tournament.
DB Multiverse page 2473
This could just be DBM having fun with Super Chicken since they showed up in the End of Z tournament.
For a diabolical genius he forgot about his flying cloud.
Super Dragon Bros Z page 132
Those are some evil looks those Saiyans are giving.
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Yamoshi Story page 74
mAc Chaos was saying:
the ssj hair color is weird...
It's not the fully transformed hair. It's in transition, like the earlier comments said.
And it's insane that U13 Raditz didn't become a Super Saiyan, but Kakarot did, and that he's only as strong as the Ginyu Force.
Hunt210 was saying:
King Kindred was saying:
Not necessarily. Look how weak they were after 20 years compared to the rest of the Frieza Force. Raditz barely passed 1,000. If they didn't receive many near-death injuries they're not getting stronger. Plus they tend to just go Great Ape. Their growth would be slower with an additional Nasu taking part of the fights.
And Frieza wouldn't just let them get close to him in power either.
That's true but you also have to compare the DBM logic of time with the saiyans. In universe 13 with 20 years together the saiyans all surpassed ginyu force level with vegeta being a ssj2 and kakarot at ssj. So in this timeline having 10 years with "nasu" I'd like to think they're atleast around ginyu level with vegeta being above that! Frieza is paranoid yes but the saiyans are sneaky and probably learned how to hide their true power! Either from nasu telling them or raditz talking about how goku did it and them learning to replicate it.
Another thing to think about is the zfighters didn't have any power to compare to except raditz so they'd mainly train to surpass his power and make smaller gains as time went on
Not necessarily. Look how weak they were after 20 years compared to the rest of the Frieza Force. Raditz barely passed 1,000. If they didn't receive many near-death injuries they're not getting stronger. Plus they tend to just go Great Ape. Their growth would be slower with an additional Nasu taking part of the fights.
And Frieza wouldn't just let them get close to him in power either.
That's true but you also have to compare the DBM logic of time with the saiyans. In universe 13 with 20 years together the saiyans all surpassed ginyu force level with vegeta being a ssj2 and kakarot at ssj. So in this timeline having 10 years with "nasu" I'd like to think they're atleast around ginyu level with vegeta being above that! Frieza is paranoid yes but the saiyans are sneaky and probably learned how to hide their true power! Either from nasu telling them or raditz talking about how goku did it and them learning to replicate it.
Another thing to think about is the zfighters didn't have any power to compare to except raditz so they'd mainly train to surpass his power and make smaller gains as time went on
They had a Kakarot that knew about training and exploited zenkais with his immortality. That's a huge factor for their growth.
A better comparison would be the Universe 10 Saiyans.
Hunt210 was saying:
Being only able to train under kami I doubt the zfighters are any stronger then ginyu force level! Also have to think the saiyans weren't sitting idle in that time either they were fighting and conquering worlds constantly so they've probably increased their power alot too! I wouldn't doubt if vegeta is approaching 1st form frieza level at this point
Not necessarily. Look how weak they were after 20 years compared to the rest of the Frieza Force. Raditz barely passed 1,000. If they didn't receive many near-death injuries they're not getting stronger. Plus they tend to just go Great Ape. Their growth would be slower with an additional Nasu taking part of the fights.
And Frieza wouldn't just let them get close to him in power either. 1 Replie(s)
There's no way the humans lose here with 10 years of dedicated training. Even without Namekian's Potential Unlocked and King Kai's training they should at the very least be in the 100,000s.
Saigo no Son page 38
ShMike was saying:
If Goku ended up on King Kai's planet, he would have King Kai about the Dragon Balls and how they are gone. But King Kai knows Namek exists so he might have told Goku to tell the remaining Dragon Team on how to get there. So we'd get a much earlier Namek arc. The Saiyans and Frieza would not know about the Dragon Balls either so Goku and Piccolo would be wished back and the third wish would be to teleport Gohan to safety. And I doubt the Saiyans would care enough to go seek him out.
Buuuut then the androids will show up in a few years and kill everyone.
Buuuut then the androids will show up in a few years and kill everyone.
This. While the Earthlings didn't know about Namek, King Kai certainly did. It was his job to know these things. I hope this doesn't become a plot hole for this story.
I'm looking forward to seeing these other versions.
DBMultiverse Special OAV - Broly Final War page 75
kaybag was saying:
How does he get away in time?
Krillin flew him away. They planned the trap. Hercule wouldn't have kamikazed himself. 1 Replie(s)
Oh how quickly hope can turn into despair.
It's really interesting to see there was a time when the galaxy trusted the Saiyans and the Patrol would let them use the Dragon Balls.
Yamoshi Story page 70
It's really interesting to see there was a time when the galaxy trusted the Saiyans and the Patrol would let them use the Dragon Balls.
YellNinja1600 was saying:
The sad ending of universe 20. I always thought Broly was frozen due to wandering space so long. But to be frozen inanimated due to being responsible for a universe destruction is crazy work. So when he was sent back to universe 20 is he just turned to ice again since there is nothing in the reality of universe 20 anymore neither life and death.
This is what I was thinking the ending would be. It would've made a lot more sense than this. How did the Vargas even get to a reality that was destroyed in this way? That alone prevents it from being a plausible story.
So the ice could annihilate every life in the universe EXCEPT for Broly? The man at the epicenter? DBM wanks Broly more than the Z movies ever did. At least he was beatable there.
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DBMultiverse Special OAV - Broly Final War page 73
This is what made Broly unlikable for me during the Z era. He's a villainous Gary Stu. No matter what he refuses to die and never grows as a character.
Thank God Toriyama and Toyotarou fixed every single one of his flaws with Super Broly.
Also, how exactly does Broly remain insanely evil after getting hit by an attack that has been used to erase evil?
DBMultiverse Special OAV - Broly Final War page 71
Thank God Toriyama and Toyotarou fixed every single one of his flaws with Super Broly.
Also, how exactly does Broly remain insanely evil after getting hit by an attack that has been used to erase evil?
That's such a beautiful Dragon Design. It's officially confirmed that XXI has his own set of Dragon Balls who have a very short timer. Is XXI secretly a Namekian? If I recall, he erased all life in his universe so he must be the one who created the Dragon Balls.
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Gohan's last sentence should be, "You have so little faith in me?"
And it makes sense that Nappa was the one to raise/train Nasu/Gohan. That was his role on Vegeta, Vegeta wouldn't want to do it anyway, and Gohan likely didn't want anything to do with Raditz at first. 1 Replie(s)
Saigo no Son page 28
And it makes sense that Nappa was the one to raise/train Nasu/Gohan. That was his role on Vegeta, Vegeta wouldn't want to do it anyway, and Gohan likely didn't want anything to do with Raditz at first. 1 Replie(s)
obserwator was saying:
Aaaaaand that's it? They leave her like this? Hehehe
Btw they can sense ki? They can't name it, but feeling it. Strange. They will lose this ability in years..
Btw they can sense ki? They can't name it, but feeling it. Strange. They will lose this ability in years..
Not actually ki sense. Just feeling the power. That's been a common thing throughout Z for even those who can't sense ki or feeling those whose ki can't be sensed in Super. They feel the pressure that their power exerts.
Gogetto was saying:
"We had to add this at the last minute so Vegetto didn't throw a shit fit... Yet"
Also, I thought Vegetto had left the arena? Wonder why he is back so quickly...
Also, I thought Vegetto had left the arena? Wonder why he is back so quickly...
I think this is what would be a TV special where the characters OOCly receive awards and talk about what happened so far. 1 Replie(s)
Dang. Even the Stardust Breaker isn't enough to finish Broly off for good. But this page looks amazing.
DBMultiverse Special OAV - Broly Final War page 65
Lol I love her. I actually wouldn't have minded. We could've gotten some behind the scenes things.
DB Multiverse page 2452
Vegito must've sensed the dark energy when XXI opened the door.
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Super Gojita 3 was saying:
King Kindred was saying: XarKhaan was saying: King Kindred was saying: Saiyan Survivor Gohan looks awesome.
And Gohan isn't evil. Even Vegeta who was born and bred in that life proved that he had the potential for good. Gohan's just been groomed to survive in that ruthless environment. He's probably still Gohan at his core.
In canon Gohan still wanted to be a scholar despite training and fighting for his life on Earth and Namek for years.
did he REALLY want to be a scholar or was he just brainwashed into it by Chi Chi and was trying to make her happy so she wasnt screeching at him about being a delinquent in a gang (Z fighters)
He literally did not like fighting and did not want to be a fighter. He felt that he had to. The moment his dad is gone and he's suffered mentally and emotionally against Cell he stopped.
Damian Qualshy was saying: King Kindred was saying: Saiyan Survivor Gohan looks awesome.
And Gohan isn't evil. Even Vegeta who was born and bred in that life proved that he had the potential for good. Gohan's just been groomed to survive in that ruthless environment. He's probably still Gohan at his core.
In canon Gohan still wanted to be a scholar despite training and fighting for his life on Earth and Namek for years.
Uh, Vegeta was changed because of Earth and Goku. Gohan gets the reverse treatment here.
Also he didn't exactly want to be a scholar just like that, he was put on this path by Chi-Chi and by being forced into fighting by Piccolo and Goku. You don't see Goten acting the same now do you? That's because Goten has a choice, he has a peaceful childhood, something Gohan never got. Also: Future Gohan is far from acting like a scholar material.
So there is no "Gohan at his core" because he didn't experience anything yet. And these three won't change around him like Piccolo did, they're not training to defend anything or anyone, so this Gohan is already different from the other two we know.
Part of the reason Vegeta was spared on Earth was because Goku saw good in him. He wouldn't have spared a threat that he knew could get stronger just like him. When Frieza tried to attack him he immediately killed him(he thought he did).
Goten and Gohan are just two completely different people. When we're first introduced to Gohan he's shy and timid. Goten was always more like Goku. It was like his spirit reincarnated into him.
Future Gohan is an outlier who has been forced to be the savior of his world against a consistent threat. There's no society for him to be a scholar of. But Trunks even comments on how Present Gohan got to live out what Future Gohan wanted.
I don't know about the dub, but goku just wanted to fight vegeta again. he even said he was being selfish in asking this.
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its not about helping vegeta find the good within himself or some thing like that, its because he wants to beat him with his own strength, on his own.
vegeta becoming good was an accident really. that was not his intent. not at all.
And Gohan isn't evil. Even Vegeta who was born and bred in that life proved that he had the potential for good. Gohan's just been groomed to survive in that ruthless environment. He's probably still Gohan at his core.
In canon Gohan still wanted to be a scholar despite training and fighting for his life on Earth and Namek for years.
did he REALLY want to be a scholar or was he just brainwashed into it by Chi Chi and was trying to make her happy so she wasnt screeching at him about being a delinquent in a gang (Z fighters)
He literally did not like fighting and did not want to be a fighter. He felt that he had to. The moment his dad is gone and he's suffered mentally and emotionally against Cell he stopped.
Damian Qualshy was saying: King Kindred was saying: Saiyan Survivor Gohan looks awesome.
And Gohan isn't evil. Even Vegeta who was born and bred in that life proved that he had the potential for good. Gohan's just been groomed to survive in that ruthless environment. He's probably still Gohan at his core.
In canon Gohan still wanted to be a scholar despite training and fighting for his life on Earth and Namek for years.
Uh, Vegeta was changed because of Earth and Goku. Gohan gets the reverse treatment here.
Also he didn't exactly want to be a scholar just like that, he was put on this path by Chi-Chi and by being forced into fighting by Piccolo and Goku. You don't see Goten acting the same now do you? That's because Goten has a choice, he has a peaceful childhood, something Gohan never got. Also: Future Gohan is far from acting like a scholar material.
So there is no "Gohan at his core" because he didn't experience anything yet. And these three won't change around him like Piccolo did, they're not training to defend anything or anyone, so this Gohan is already different from the other two we know.
Part of the reason Vegeta was spared on Earth was because Goku saw good in him. He wouldn't have spared a threat that he knew could get stronger just like him. When Frieza tried to attack him he immediately killed him(he thought he did).
Goten and Gohan are just two completely different people. When we're first introduced to Gohan he's shy and timid. Goten was always more like Goku. It was like his spirit reincarnated into him.
Future Gohan is an outlier who has been forced to be the savior of his world against a consistent threat. There's no society for him to be a scholar of. But Trunks even comments on how Present Gohan got to live out what Future Gohan wanted.
I don't know about the dub, but goku just wanted to fight vegeta again. he even said he was being selfish in asking this.
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its not about helping vegeta find the good within himself or some thing like that, its because he wants to beat him with his own strength, on his own.
vegeta becoming good was an accident really. that was not his intent. not at all.
Both are true. Fighting a strong opponent again wasn't enough of a reason after to keep Vegeta alive, especially if he didn't end up coming back to Earth. By that point Goku knew the Dragon Balls were gone and hadn't known of Namek yet. He was essentially trying to replace Tien/Yamcha with Vegeta but he had to have known Vegeta could be turned into an ally. 1 Replie(s)
XarKhaan was saying:
King Kindred was saying: Saiyan Survivor Gohan looks awesome.
And Gohan isn't evil. Even Vegeta who was born and bred in that life proved that he had the potential for good. Gohan's just been groomed to survive in that ruthless environment. He's probably still Gohan at his core.
In canon Gohan still wanted to be a scholar despite training and fighting for his life on Earth and Namek for years.
did he REALLY want to be a scholar or was he just brainwashed into it by Chi Chi and was trying to make her happy so she wasnt screeching at him about being a delinquent in a gang (Z fighters)
And Gohan isn't evil. Even Vegeta who was born and bred in that life proved that he had the potential for good. Gohan's just been groomed to survive in that ruthless environment. He's probably still Gohan at his core.
In canon Gohan still wanted to be a scholar despite training and fighting for his life on Earth and Namek for years.
did he REALLY want to be a scholar or was he just brainwashed into it by Chi Chi and was trying to make her happy so she wasnt screeching at him about being a delinquent in a gang (Z fighters)
He literally did not like fighting and did not want to be a fighter. He felt that he had to. The moment his dad is gone and he's suffered mentally and emotionally against Cell he stopped.
Damian Qualshy was saying:
King Kindred was saying: Saiyan Survivor Gohan looks awesome.
And Gohan isn't evil. Even Vegeta who was born and bred in that life proved that he had the potential for good. Gohan's just been groomed to survive in that ruthless environment. He's probably still Gohan at his core.
In canon Gohan still wanted to be a scholar despite training and fighting for his life on Earth and Namek for years.
Uh, Vegeta was changed because of Earth and Goku. Gohan gets the reverse treatment here.
Also he didn't exactly want to be a scholar just like that, he was put on this path by Chi-Chi and by being forced into fighting by Piccolo and Goku. You don't see Goten acting the same now do you? That's because Goten has a choice, he has a peaceful childhood, something Gohan never got. Also: Future Gohan is far from acting like a scholar material.
So there is no "Gohan at his core" because he didn't experience anything yet. And these three won't change around him like Piccolo did, they're not training to defend anything or anyone, so this Gohan is already different from the other two we know.
And Gohan isn't evil. Even Vegeta who was born and bred in that life proved that he had the potential for good. Gohan's just been groomed to survive in that ruthless environment. He's probably still Gohan at his core.
In canon Gohan still wanted to be a scholar despite training and fighting for his life on Earth and Namek for years.
Uh, Vegeta was changed because of Earth and Goku. Gohan gets the reverse treatment here.
Also he didn't exactly want to be a scholar just like that, he was put on this path by Chi-Chi and by being forced into fighting by Piccolo and Goku. You don't see Goten acting the same now do you? That's because Goten has a choice, he has a peaceful childhood, something Gohan never got. Also: Future Gohan is far from acting like a scholar material.
So there is no "Gohan at his core" because he didn't experience anything yet. And these three won't change around him like Piccolo did, they're not training to defend anything or anyone, so this Gohan is already different from the other two we know.
Part of the reason Vegeta was spared on Earth was because Goku saw good in him. He wouldn't have spared a threat that he knew could get stronger just like him. When Frieza tried to attack him he immediately killed him(he thought he did).
Goten and Gohan are just two completely different people. When we're first introduced to Gohan he's shy and timid. Goten was always more like Goku. It was like his spirit reincarnated into him.
Future Gohan is an outlier who has been forced to be the savior of his world against a consistent threat. There's no society for him to be a scholar of. But Trunks even comments on how Present Gohan got to live out what Future Gohan wanted. 1 Replie(s)
Saiyan Survivor Gohan looks awesome.
And Gohan isn't evil. Even Vegeta who was born and bred in that life proved that he had the potential for good. Gohan's just been groomed to survive in that ruthless environment. He's probably still Gohan at his core.
In canon Gohan still wanted to be a scholar despite training and fighting for his life on Earth and Namek for years. 2 Replie(s)
Saigo no Son page 17
And Gohan isn't evil. Even Vegeta who was born and bred in that life proved that he had the potential for good. Gohan's just been groomed to survive in that ruthless environment. He's probably still Gohan at his core.
In canon Gohan still wanted to be a scholar despite training and fighting for his life on Earth and Namek for years. 2 Replie(s)
kingworld was saying:
So if SS3 doesn't drain the fusion time because Gogeta is dead, then why the in hell (pun intended) did Elder Kai tell Gogeta to un-transform?
I usually refrain from dishing out negative comments about the plot, because I write and I know how annoying are people getting picky about every little detail, but this is becoming quite ridiculous...
I'm all down for "big punches for the sake of it", but if you wrap a plot around the fights, please have it be at least minimally internally coherent. There are so many plot holes and inconsistent stuff... And yet the big punches and waves, that should be the main part of this story, are so few and scattered. How many fight hits did between Gogeta and Broly exchange? 8, counting generously.
I usually refrain from dishing out negative comments about the plot, because I write and I know how annoying are people getting picky about every little detail, but this is becoming quite ridiculous...
I'm all down for "big punches for the sake of it", but if you wrap a plot around the fights, please have it be at least minimally internally coherent. There are so many plot holes and inconsistent stuff... And yet the big punches and waves, that should be the main part of this story, are so few and scattered. How many fight hits did between Gogeta and Broly exchange? 8, counting generously.
Their overwhelming power was literally breaking the fabric of space. That's why he told him to detransform, to minimize the power being exerted by the 3(4 including Janemba) warriors until they can go through with the next plan.
Somebody's Mr. Grumpy Pants.
And Bra is saying what we're all thinking. Goku has nothing in his arsenal, at least from what we've seen, that could actually stop that black smoke. He wouldn't even be able to use instant transmission.
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And Bra is saying what we're all thinking. Goku has nothing in his arsenal, at least from what we've seen, that could actually stop that black smoke. He wouldn't even be able to use instant transmission.
The Buu Armor's a pretty cool concept though I'm surprised it didn't end up in a full absorption. After seeing Broly grow stronger that would've seemed like the only option.
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Yes! Gast was saved from being eaten! But XXI definitely attacked him after he forfeit because his feet are completely gone now.
Also to note would the announcers consider XXI's smoke outside help? We see here that it's coming from his sleeves(literal trick up his sleeves) and not actually from his hands or being him.
XXI dropping a bunch of F bombs was both unexpected and funny. Are those the first we've gotten from anyone in the tournament? 1 Replie(s)
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Also to note would the announcers consider XXI's smoke outside help? We see here that it's coming from his sleeves(literal trick up his sleeves) and not actually from his hands or being him.
XXI dropping a bunch of F bombs was both unexpected and funny. Are those the first we've gotten from anyone in the tournament? 1 Replie(s)
Koshej was saying:
siksteen was saying: Koshej was saying: I don't want to go check the original page, but WHY was Tien proclaimed the winner?
It's the same thing here, it doesnt say. But its probably 30 seconds.
Of what?
Flying on a cloud, while his "clones" are "defeated" on the arena?
With all the OTHER flying and summon-minion-ing going on... this looks almost unfair, lol.
It's the same thing here, it doesnt say. But its probably 30 seconds.
Of what?
Flying on a cloud, while his "clones" are "defeated" on the arena?
With all the OTHER flying and summon-minion-ing going on... this looks almost unfair, lol.
Look at the panel where he's standing up. He's beaten up. He was one of the defeated clones, but was actually coming up with a strategy. 1 Replie(s)
Fortuys was saying:
DestroyerOfVegetards was saying: There is still a pair of Gast's legs that Janemba cut of earlier in the fight. I wonder if Gast can make use of those old legs.
Gast is not Cell or Buu, he doesn't have a regeneration core that he can move around his body, or the ability to regenerate from any part of his body, his regeneration is sourced from his brain.
Gast is not Cell or Buu, he doesn't have a regeneration core that he can move around his body, or the ability to regenerate from any part of his body, his regeneration is sourced from his brain.
Cell got his regeneration from Piccolo and even he was unaware of his own limits. Gast is the culmination of Namek's Hope and people. His regeneration is a lot stronger than what we've seen from Namekians. He could very well have that ability to create clones using his disembodied parts. 1 Replie(s)
XXI too hax, pls nerf.
Someone called that Gast was going to forfeit. It is the best option considering the circumstances. It'd just really leave a bad taste if XXI won. If even Gast can't beat him no one can. Which again begs the question. Why are he and his shadow friend even here?
I believe Gast may have a clone outside. That would be the smartest thing to do against an opponent like XXI who loves to use the tournament's rules for cheap victories. Even if the Organizers can't hear him his clone certainly will.
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Someone called that Gast was going to forfeit. It is the best option considering the circumstances. It'd just really leave a bad taste if XXI won. If even Gast can't beat him no one can. Which again begs the question. Why are he and his shadow friend even here?
I believe Gast may have a clone outside. That would be the smartest thing to do against an opponent like XXI who loves to use the tournament's rules for cheap victories. Even if the Organizers can't hear him his clone certainly will.
The only way for Gast to win here is if he uses magic. Yeah, it's technically energy, but it has different properties.
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Yeah, where did Gogeta's injuries randomly come from? The last time we see him on page 54 he's completely unscathed and only Buu, Broly, and Janemba were fighting since.
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The Glorious King Gast has done it again! He's pumping his chest with energy to make him explode.
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Frorenst was saying:
Hi guys, sorry for not saying anything and thanks for some kind wishes. I am fine if you guys are worried.
Now Im sorry to say, but for personal reasons I dont have time or interest anymore to work on this project. I really have a lot more things I must focus on in life right now, which a non profit fan comic cannot take precedence over. Also when I began this project I was motivated to do so mainly because I like drawing and I saw it as a means to improve my skill since I started drawing seriously in 2020-2021. But this year Ive started to expand my interest in comics and I see the limitations of only doing fanart. I still intend to make comics/manga, but from now on I feel I want to focus on original works.
Anyway if you guys want to know the story of Blancoverse, I could wip up a short summary of what was going to happen if you like.
As for what Im working on, I cannot say at the moment. But who knows, maybe you'll see a familiar manga-style work appear on webtoon or some other platform some day.
Now Im sorry to say, but for personal reasons I dont have time or interest anymore to work on this project. I really have a lot more things I must focus on in life right now, which a non profit fan comic cannot take precedence over. Also when I began this project I was motivated to do so mainly because I like drawing and I saw it as a means to improve my skill since I started drawing seriously in 2020-2021. But this year Ive started to expand my interest in comics and I see the limitations of only doing fanart. I still intend to make comics/manga, but from now on I feel I want to focus on original works.
Anyway if you guys want to know the story of Blancoverse, I could wip up a short summary of what was going to happen if you like.
As for what Im working on, I cannot say at the moment. But who knows, maybe you'll see a familiar manga-style work appear on webtoon or some other platform some day.
Dang. Unfortunate, but understandable. I'm glad you're doing well! Thank you for providing us with the story you did and I pray that you have much success in your endeavors.
ZGrssd was saying:
But, why is she not wearing a top?
I am not complaining, just confused.
I am not complaining, just confused.
She was likely at home once she got corrupted.
Oh, this is really interesting. We see more of XXI here and what his smoke does.
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The Dragon theory is seeming even more plausible now. It looks like he has a stout. But if he's a dragon or has one with wish granting properties why does he need the ones in the tournament?
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Gast won't stand by and let innocents suffer. He'll stop XXI and save the young Oni.
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That was a weird place to stop the special chapter. We didn't even really learn anything about Gast in it. But since we're getting two more Gast chapters after this it has me believing that he'll be the one winning the tournament, but XXI won't let it slide.
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goten-kun was saying:
UltraExtream was saying: Too many questions won't be answered. Like how did he become SSJ and how did he meet Kami and become guardian?
In Namekseijin Densetsu, Tambo says he learnt from the best. He meant Goku.^^
Like Goku did, Tambo trained in Kami's sanctuary ans like former Kami asked Goku to become the new God of Earth, Dende asked Tambo.
King Kindred was saying:
Is there a story between this one and the Namek story?
Maybe I will make a story between those two. I don't know yet.
Kal'din was saying: I feel this shoudl have ended when Tambo flew away. These last pages don't add anything. Appart from that I loved it.
Yes, the story ends when Tambo flies to his mother. The last chapter is just an epilogue.
In any case, I thank you all for your comments that warm my heart.
321Y is the fanmanga I am most proud of, and Tambo is a character that I particularly love. I will surely do something new later with this character. But nothing is decided for now.
A big thank you to all of you, it was a real pleasure to share all this with you.
I will see you very very soon for a brand new story, you will still have content on Tuesday, Thursday and Saturday.^^
Thank you all!!
In Namekseijin Densetsu, Tambo says he learnt from the best. He meant Goku.^^
Like Goku did, Tambo trained in Kami's sanctuary ans like former Kami asked Goku to become the new God of Earth, Dende asked Tambo.
King Kindred was saying:
Is there a story between this one and the Namek story?
Maybe I will make a story between those two. I don't know yet.
Kal'din was saying: I feel this shoudl have ended when Tambo flew away. These last pages don't add anything. Appart from that I loved it.
Yes, the story ends when Tambo flies to his mother. The last chapter is just an epilogue.
In any case, I thank you all for your comments that warm my heart.
321Y is the fanmanga I am most proud of, and Tambo is a character that I particularly love. I will surely do something new later with this character. But nothing is decided for now.
A big thank you to all of you, it was a real pleasure to share all this with you.
I will see you very very soon for a brand new story, you will still have content on Tuesday, Thursday and Saturday.^^
Thank you all!!
Thank you for answering my question and thank you for your story and all of your hard work! I would love to see a story that takes place in between the two, thank you.
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Dang. We don't even get to see the conclusion of the fight. I enjoyed the story, but the ending was very rushed when there was so much to explore.
Is there a story between this one and the Namek story? 1 Replie(s)
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Dang. We don't even get to see the conclusion of the fight. I enjoyed the story, but the ending was very rushed when there was so much to explore.
Is there a story between this one and the Namek story? 1 Replie(s)
Delphince was saying:
Bulma honestly ISN'T a good person. Her degree of selfishness pushes her right up to the edge of being a villain, and her goals have just never directly clashed with the well-being of the world. Capsule Corp brings her inventions to the people, but her motivation is wealth rather than altruism. Time and again, when she's had the opportunity to help herself OR society, she chooses herself, every time. Trunks' dark future has shown that when the chips are down, she can be broken to show a good person inside, but the same could be said for Vegeta's character development.
I don't know where you've projected this image of Bulma from, but it so far from the truth it's scary. Bulma couldn't give two craps about money. She was born into it. She doesn't create inventions solely for profit. She invents things to make things easier. The only vain thing Bulma cares about is remaining young. Where is the evil and selfishness in that?
Kururu said pretty much everything. Bulma in OG Dragon Ball wasn't even that bad. Yes, she's loud and does things for the gag, but that's less on her and more on Toriyama's writing as a gag manga artist in an age where fan service was blooming.
Vegito1090 was saying:
I'm confused... Will the lie revealed a few pages ago get addressed or not? Seems like they're skipping over it.
That's what I'm wondering. Made a big deal over something they said being a lie just for nothing to come of it. At least nothing we're made aware of. 2 Replie(s)
Well, this is a pleasant surprise. Orzo and Misa got together and got busy! All this does is just makes me wish we actually explored the 8 years more.
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Wow. We finally get a future timeline with Hercule and Videl, but Gohan's dead.
And what lie could Thorn have possibly ascertained from the information given? 1 Replie(s)
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And what lie could Thorn have possibly ascertained from the information given? 1 Replie(s)
Our little Saiyan warrior is all grown up. I wonder what his hair looks like now without the tie.
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Wow. A truly dark timeline. Gohan didn't even get the chance to grow. Avenge him, Gast!
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Dang. 8 years have passed? We're not gonna see the reunion or will it be flashbacked to?
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Gast over here using Kid Buu's technique. I love it. Where'd Krillin go?
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She and Tambo are definitely descendants of Goku and Chi Chi. This pretty much confirms it.
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This future really is worse than the original. The androids can detect energy here.
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Gast: This world is in ruins and I'm a stranger to this world. Perhaps you're its defenders. Please answer before I decide how to act.
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siksteen was saying:
Oh I thought at least Buyon was coming with him...
Right. I'm very surprised he didn't take him. They seemed very attached already.
This is interesting. I wonder what changed here that lead to these androids. The Frost family never came to Earth and Future Trunks likely doesn't exist. I'm looking forward to learning more.
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I'm confused as to why 19 and 20 would be here. They only showed up due to Trunks messing with time. Trunks shouldn't exist here unless Vegeta came to Earth and still got with Bulma.
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Gast is getting an Earth Adventures Special! I love it. I'm looking forward to seeing what happens here. Maybe it'll foreshadow how he'll beat XXI.
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Broly: So hotshot, you want to fight Legendary Super Saiyan Broly?
Ultimate Buuhan: Fight you? No, I wanna kill you.
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Ultimate Buuhan: Fight you? No, I wanna kill you.
Gast: Heh. That's what I wanted you to think.
Clone Gast: Your reign of evil is over. blasts XXI into nothingness
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Clone Gast: Your reign of evil is over. blasts XXI into nothingness
Tambo's mom is alive and restored! Saiyan reunion here we come.
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J.I.L was saying:
Dbm and their love for ginormous panels, so they can stretch out the series.
Sighs...
At least the art and chorography is pretty good, I suppose.
Sighs...
At least the art and chorography is pretty good, I suppose.
Never seen someone complain about full page panels. Do you also say this when full spreads are done in weekly/monthly manga? They're simply a testament of art and the scene they're displaying.
Gast is breathing really heavy here. Janemba was really putting him through it with his magic. Don't be distracted by the adorable little Oni! Finish off XXI!
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Come on, Gast. Prove everyone wrong and snipe XXI with your free arm while he's distracted with Janemba's purification.
DBM is a love letter to Dragon Ball. There's no way it's not ending with a Saiyan vs Namekian. 1 Replie(s)
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DBM is a love letter to Dragon Ball. There's no way it's not ending with a Saiyan vs Namekian. 1 Replie(s)
Gogetto was saying:
King Kindred was saying: Gogetto was saying: I hope she ron recognizes Goku and we get a little interaction between them
I was thinking the same at first, but remembered that Goku always does this when someone wants to summon Shenron now. It's like seeing your coworker to them.
As for the wishes debate I'm guessing the Dragon Balls got weaker as Dende aged since they're supposed to be in correlation to his power.
Yea but I assume not many people are finding the balls and if they do then Goku has to deem their wish request worthy.
And I'm not sure if dendes age would affect shenron s wishes? Super kami guru was ancient but porunga looks like he could eat shenron for breakfast. Maybe dende refigured the balls to grant one wish but raised the power cap on that one wish? If Goku is around guarding the 4 star ball Id think dende doesn't have to worry about an evil wish being made (that is assuming dende knows Goku is doing this... But Id be surprised if he didn't know)
I was thinking the same at first, but remembered that Goku always does this when someone wants to summon Shenron now. It's like seeing your coworker to them.
As for the wishes debate I'm guessing the Dragon Balls got weaker as Dende aged since they're supposed to be in correlation to his power.
Yea but I assume not many people are finding the balls and if they do then Goku has to deem their wish request worthy.
And I'm not sure if dendes age would affect shenron s wishes? Super kami guru was ancient but porunga looks like he could eat shenron for breakfast. Maybe dende refigured the balls to grant one wish but raised the power cap on that one wish? If Goku is around guarding the 4 star ball Id think dende doesn't have to worry about an evil wish being made (that is assuming dende knows Goku is doing this... But Id be surprised if he didn't know)
Guru isn't a normal Namekian. They don't all normally grow to that size naturally. But it's possible the one wish is still strong. 1 Replie(s)
Gogetto was saying:
I hope she ron recognizes Goku and we get a little interaction between them
I was thinking the same at first, but remembered that Goku always does this when someone wants to summon Shenron now. It's like seeing your coworker to them.
As for the wishes debate I'm guessing the Dragon Balls got weaker as Dende aged since they're supposed to be in correlation to his power. 1 Replie(s)
Wow, Shenron. That's clearly family down there. They should get the regular rate.
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Shenron got summoned here while Robin Williams was summoned in Super Dragon Bros Z
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Crow was saying:
I can't get over how stupid this energy substitution technique is.
In a world where kids can create sentient, explosive versions of themselves, energy substitution is stupid?
Gast is truly the best warrior we have here. His quick thinking should net him the victory here, but that depends on just how strong XXI's plot armor is.
I just don't see how Goku would beat XXI without magic. I'm really hoping this tournament ends with Gast vs Goku as an homage to the final tournament in Dragon Ball. Goku vs Piccolo Jr.
I'm guessing Gast wins here and XXI is pissed and takes control of Vegito to conquer the multiverse and get his wish.
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I just don't see how Goku would beat XXI without magic. I'm really hoping this tournament ends with Gast vs Goku as an homage to the final tournament in Dragon Ball. Goku vs Piccolo Jr.
I'm guessing Gast wins here and XXI is pissed and takes control of Vegito to conquer the multiverse and get his wish.
BlackCat was saying:
I thought in the dragon ball manga could only revive a person when they died not longer than within the previous year. Couldn't do it if longer.
This also somewhat remained a factor in Super but changed it to Freeza to only be revived in chopped up forms, using Frost tech to heal him as a whole
This also somewhat remained a factor in Super but changed it to Freeza to only be revived in chopped up forms, using Frost tech to heal him as a whole
That rule was only if they were reviving a lot of people and the Dragon Balls have been upgraded multiple times since then. Plus, if I recall correctly her death is pretty recent.
I think it just changed their mindsets.
Maybe? I can understand all of the other infected Saiyans, but not Cumber. At the beginning he simply didn't recognize Yamoshi, as if he's a different person.
I had to go back because I was a bit confused myself. It seems like it creates another personality within him. The real Cumber and then the bloodthirsty Cumber. 1 Replie(s)