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My top 10 anime are (Not in order)
1. Dragon ball
2. Naruto Shippuden
3. Aot
4. Demon Slayer
5. Black Clover
6. Darwins Game
7. One punch Man
8. Full metal alchemist Brotherhood
9. Mushoku Tensei
10. Had multiple ties and is undecided.
1. Dragon ball
2. Naruto Shippuden
3. Aot
4. Demon Slayer
5. Black Clover
6. Darwins Game
7. One punch Man
8. Full metal alchemist Brotherhood
9. Mushoku Tensei
10. Had multiple ties and is undecided.
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Great art amazing Panel. But I'm praying that when we get done getting this flashback, Vegeta is just bluffing that he got knocked out and gets back up and does his Iconic Big Bang Attack to win Obliterating everything in sight.
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I just wanted to mention something. Back on the cover of the chapter with all the chess pieces. It showed that someone was pulling all of the strings and I thought it possibly was ZenBu and XXI but I saw both of their chess pieces also on that board. Now that could just be a coincidence or just drawing but I feel XXI captured Buu like that for a reason. And that whatever he needs to complete his plan ZenBuu possesses or has. Also, the title has me thinking Deceitful Magicians. Why put that title just to have one of those magicians taken out at the beginning of the chapter. It doesn't add up. I feel another key piece is gonna be revealed and it has something to do with why Grand supreme Kai just let Buu roam around freely. He had no reason to do so but did anyway. Also seeing as Buu is kinda just along for the ride here in this tournament he probably had a backup plan in case something like this happens seeing Babidi in this tournament and knowing that XXI has tricks up his sleeve.
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Please avert your eyes what your about to see may be disturbing and hard to watch.
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For the love of god this is literally copy and paste Broly movie scenes
At least make something original 4 Replie(s)
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At least make something original 4 Replie(s)
Zefarg was saying:
Finally we have gotten some more insight into why Broly wins and kills everyone this time :)
I mean, why wouldn't he win, when he Raises ATK & DEF and causes immense damage to enemy and has Ki +3 and ATK & DEF +180%; reduces damage received by 18% and chance of performing a critical hit +18%; launches an additional attack that has a medium chance of becoming a Super Attack; plus an additional Ki +3 and launches an additional attack that has a medium chance of becoming a Super Attack, and reduces damage received by 18% and chance of performing a critical hit +18% within the same turn after performing a Super Attack, when there is a "Pure Saiyans" or "Hybrid Saiyans" Category enemy and he can also gain Ki +6, ATK +60% and attacks effective against all Types for 1 turn after performing 4 or more Super Attacks in battle (once only tho) ;)
His power just is MAXIMUMER :D
(PS: I hope this meme is ok, it should be, since I've seen someone do it before with Bojack and his Dokkan card :))
I mean, why wouldn't he win, when he Raises ATK & DEF and causes immense damage to enemy and has Ki +3 and ATK & DEF +180%; reduces damage received by 18% and chance of performing a critical hit +18%; launches an additional attack that has a medium chance of becoming a Super Attack; plus an additional Ki +3 and launches an additional attack that has a medium chance of becoming a Super Attack, and reduces damage received by 18% and chance of performing a critical hit +18% within the same turn after performing a Super Attack, when there is a "Pure Saiyans" or "Hybrid Saiyans" Category enemy and he can also gain Ki +6, ATK +60% and attacks effective against all Types for 1 turn after performing 4 or more Super Attacks in battle (once only tho) ;)
His power just is MAXIMUMER :D
(PS: I hope this meme is ok, it should be, since I've seen someone do it before with Bojack and his Dokkan card :))
Broly (Legendary Super Sayain) Dragon ball Multiverse
Don't Forget to zenkai Awaken Broly on 3/20
Karakroooooooot!
Broly gets inflicted damage up by 150% to all sayains and Son family
Gets level 3 increased card draw speed draws the ultimate MY POWER IS MAXIMUM
Gets sustained damage cut by 100%
Restores ki on successful card landing
You cannot stop me now
Is Invincible to any arts card besides an Special moves and Ultimate arts card
Gets inflicted damage up 400% for 30 timer counts and Buffs reduced damage by 300%
Arts Cards
Strike arts
Cause any one to get hit by it increased chance of getting amnesia
Blasts Arts
Does massive explosive damage
Green Card: Its time to DIE
Cause anyone in Broly's vicinity to die
Special Move Arts: What is a King to a God
All Princes and Kings will be obliterated
Does massive explosive damage and gets penetrates sustain damage cuts and has inflicted damage up 70%
By the way anyone here play Dragon Ball Legends?
The Big Gete Star was saying:
I don't have any confidence in "Serious Gotenks" if Broly was trashing Ultimate Gohan a minute ago. The smart thing to do would be to form Gogeta, but I have the strongest feeling that the inevitable payoff of Gogeta's DBM debut isn't going to be in a universe special. Also they all lose, and we know that already, so... Broly ironically has the plot armor here. I'm guessing Gotenks is gonna go out in a blaze of glory lol.
Hopefully Gotenks has a swift Death though.
Im gonna expect Broly to savor and enjoy killing Goku and probably Vegeta
Goahn is also probably gonna get killed really quick
Okay after seeing Gohan hold both Dead Videl and Pan I almost shed a tear.
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Im actually surprised that Goku didn't do KAI KAI.
It surprises me how Goku loves training and getting stronger but doesn't learn other techniques from his friends for some reason
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It surprises me how Goku loves training and getting stronger but doesn't learn other techniques from his friends for some reason
At this rate I wouldn't be surprised If Broly destroys planets with a glare.
To bad his only emotions are Neutral, angry and, ANGRIER
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To bad his only emotions are Neutral, angry and, ANGRIER
brolyfanboyxx999 was saying:
Gogeta Blue was saying: Bull shit! The last time we saw Broly he wasn't even able to compare to 2 super sayains and a super sayain two now he is arguably Super sayain 1 Vegito. I dont give any shit to what he did in space but if he can get god damn zenkais by just staying in space im fucking through. HE MISSED THE SUN. I wouldn't be angry If he hit the sun survived and then became this powerful but he missed it the blast dissipated and he was just flying there. ALSO WHAT TRIGGERED HIS STUPID ASS to come running back to Earth NGL I kinda fucking hate Broly stupid increase of power all of a sudden. Again if he got stronger while fighting the z fighters I wouldn't be mad but no Broly has to be stronger than base form Vegito.
Broly's power growth has already been established as a passive thing in his Legendary form, also it took 2 Super Saiyan 2's and a Super Saiyan 3 to completely overwhelm him and blast him into the sun. It's been 12 years since the Buu saga ended in this story.
Uhm which movie you talking about last time i remembered goten hadn't reached super Saiyan 2 level of strength yet. Goku was still in other world and hadn't showed off super Sayaian 3 yet. so Idk what you talking about?
[quote from="Classy_Skeleton" id=98771]Gogeta Blue was saying: The last time we saw Broly he wasn't even able to compare to 2 super sayains and a super sayain two now he is arguably Super sayain 1 Vegito.
Where did you get that from? All Broly's done is destroy most of the planet, which Vegeta could do when he first showed up on Earth. This level of damage is very similar to what Frieza did to Namek, so it's not even like this is an insane feat we've never seen before.
Broly's power growth has already been established as a passive thing in his Legendary form, also it took 2 Super Saiyan 2's and a Super Saiyan 3 to completely overwhelm him and blast him into the sun. It's been 12 years since the Buu saga ended in this story.
Uhm which movie you talking about last time i remembered goten hadn't reached super Saiyan 2 level of strength yet. Goku was still in other world and hadn't showed off super Sayaian 3 yet. so Idk what you talking about?
[quote from="Classy_Skeleton" id=98771]Gogeta Blue was saying: The last time we saw Broly he wasn't even able to compare to 2 super sayains and a super sayain two now he is arguably Super sayain 1 Vegito.
Where did you get that from? All Broly's done is destroy most of the planet, which Vegeta could do when he first showed up on Earth. This level of damage is very similar to what Frieza did to Namek, so it's not even like this is an insane feat we've never seen before.
Okay yes but he did this from landing on the planet that sets him in his own category.
No insane charge time no abismal 5 minutes of charging just entering the atmosphere and landing.
Classy_Skeleton was saying:
Gogeta Blue was saying: ALSO WHAT TRIGGERED HIS STUPID ASS to come running back to Earth
I dunno. Maybe because it's the planet he last saw Kakarot on? We know he has a thing against Goku, even if it's a different reason than in the OG Broly movies. This is Kaiba levels of determined to get his salty runback.
I dunno. Maybe because it's the planet he last saw Kakarot on? We know he has a thing against Goku, even if it's a different reason than in the OG Broly movies. This is Kaiba levels of determined to get his salty runback.
Yes but theres no way he heard Goku from that far away lets assume he kept travelling pass the sun that means he was 92.029 million miles away at least. Now Broly might be REALLY STRONG but I doubt he can hear Goku that fa away.
Bull shit! The last time we saw Broly he wasn't even able to compare to 2 super sayains and a super sayain two now he is arguably Super sayain 1 Vegito. I dont give any shit to what he did in space but if he can get god damn zenkais by just staying in space im fucking through. HE MISSED THE SUN. I wouldn't be angry If he hit the sun survived and then became this powerful but he missed it the blast dissipated and he was just flying there. ALSO WHAT TRIGGERED HIS STUPID ASS to come running back to Earth NGL I kinda fucking hate Broly stupid increase of power all of a sudden. Again if he got stronger while fighting the z fighters I wouldn't be mad but no Broly has to be stronger than base form Vegito.
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Ven was saying:
King Kindred was saying: Broly's a coward. Rather than face them and lose again he attacks their planet when their pants are down.
Also where's 18 and Marron?
And why wouldn't Goku just Instant Transmission them to King Kai's so they can train and eventually revive Earth with the Namekian Dragon Balls?
Cowardice, also known as "strategy". Of course, since it's coming from Broly, it's pretty weird. Maybe he woke up in space after being beatend and though to himself while looking at his own fist in contemplation "Maybe punching REALLY hard...isn't always enough?" Hah. Or maybe he just got lucky as he tunnel visioned on earth and just happened to come at a convenient time and started blasting, while also accidentally hitting a convenient spot where enemies were. Slightly more beliveable that way.
Also where's 18 and Marron?
And why wouldn't Goku just Instant Transmission them to King Kai's so they can train and eventually revive Earth with the Namekian Dragon Balls?
Cowardice, also known as "strategy". Of course, since it's coming from Broly, it's pretty weird. Maybe he woke up in space after being beatend and though to himself while looking at his own fist in contemplation "Maybe punching REALLY hard...isn't always enough?" Hah. Or maybe he just got lucky as he tunnel visioned on earth and just happened to come at a convenient time and started blasting, while also accidentally hitting a convenient spot where enemies were. Slightly more beliveable that way.
To be fair this is DBZ Broly were talking about here he must have taken a lot precautions to avoid getting peed on by Trunks.
He probably was thinking about that the entire time.
Classy_Skeleton was saying:
BobCros was saying: DuburaLytas was saying:
Chichi also has been seen to go kaio-Ken a couple times
When? I don't remember this happening... ever. Chi-Chi hasn't even been in a fight since Raditz showed up, if I'm correct.
Chichi also has been seen to go kaio-Ken a couple times
When? I don't remember this happening... ever. Chi-Chi hasn't even been in a fight since Raditz showed up, if I'm correct.
Okay If you think Chi Chi has gone Kaio-ken then Yamacha has mastered Ultra Instinct and Is the strongest fighter in the multiverse. He has defeated both Broly, Jiren Vegeta and Goku at once. He also defeated Berus and Zeno made the Grand Priest his pet. Married Bulma and has his own Castle 2 Replie(s)
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Michelrpg was saying: The gravity would simply crush her. She's stronger than an average human, but so were a bunch of characters in dragonball tournaments. That 10x gravity took Goku a long time to get used to, and he trained daily with weighted clothing on.
Chi Chi would go splat faster than when Buu stepped on her in egg form.
Chi chi is above 10x the strength of a normal human. at like 130, a normal human is like 5. she would be uncomfortable, but live.
how strong is dende? he was on king kais planet? he's not a warrior type either.
Chi Chi would go splat faster than when Buu stepped on her in egg form.
Chi chi is above 10x the strength of a normal human. at like 130, a normal human is like 5. she would be uncomfortable, but live.
how strong is dende? he was on king kais planet? he's not a warrior type either.
The better question is Chi Chi a fair comparison to dende in strength and power level.
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Does anyone else feel this is the best chapter ending in the entire manga?
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Ven was saying:
ZenBuu was saying: Arkren was saying: Darklordcomp was saying: God Nappa's gonna die again the moment Gohan finds him
oh, so bra being mind controlled is excusable even tough is clear that she had enough power to resist it, but nappa being mind controlled when he cant do anything to avoid it is somehow unforgibable...
The difference between Bra and Nappa is, that Nappa would still do all the things he did during the majin rebellion, when he is not mind controlled...Bra would certainly not. I think its funny how people even try to defend evil scumbags or lunatics like Nappa/Kakarott, just to make Bra look worse again while comparing.
Also, she did not have enough willpower to resist Babidi from the beginning. Or she would've broken free earlier. She was his true slave just like Dabura.
And i find it absolutely adorable how people always say that people are "defending" evil characters when someone points out how stupid it is to excuse Bra and nobody else. If Bras will is comparable to wet paper, then it's good enough reason to make it a priority to remove her power, one way or another.
oh, so bra being mind controlled is excusable even tough is clear that she had enough power to resist it, but nappa being mind controlled when he cant do anything to avoid it is somehow unforgibable...
The difference between Bra and Nappa is, that Nappa would still do all the things he did during the majin rebellion, when he is not mind controlled...Bra would certainly not. I think its funny how people even try to defend evil scumbags or lunatics like Nappa/Kakarott, just to make Bra look worse again while comparing.
Also, she did not have enough willpower to resist Babidi from the beginning. Or she would've broken free earlier. She was his true slave just like Dabura.
And i find it absolutely adorable how people always say that people are "defending" evil characters when someone points out how stupid it is to excuse Bra and nobody else. If Bras will is comparable to wet paper, then it's good enough reason to make it a priority to remove her power, one way or another.
Can we stop making everything about Bra I get it she is a useless and pointless character. Don't need to point it out for like the Billionth time like jeez take a break I see these type of comments every page like no one cares anymore.we are literally getting half the cast back why don't you talk about that!
Classy_Skeleton was saying:
Xeos was saying: Unless Buu can create Cold's soul from scratch or reach into U8 and get Cold's soul it's gotta be Ginyu in that body.
I agree with you, I just think it'd be funny to see Cold's reaction if he was put back in his body right now.
Gogeta Blue was saying: My real question is where is Cell I want to see his reaction to all of this.
Cell is currently 2 pages back, standing slightly away from the group of Z-Fighters, on panel 2. My real question is where are the mini Cell Jr.s? Were they revived by Zen Buu? How will they feel being taken away from the people they've known they're entire lives (Gohan and Fat Buu) by their father? It's like a soap opera tragedy waiting to happen!
I agree with you, I just think it'd be funny to see Cold's reaction if he was put back in his body right now.
Gogeta Blue was saying: My real question is where is Cell I want to see his reaction to all of this.
Cell is currently 2 pages back, standing slightly away from the group of Z-Fighters, on panel 2. My real question is where are the mini Cell Jr.s? Were they revived by Zen Buu? How will they feel being taken away from the people they've known they're entire lives (Gohan and Fat Buu) by their father? It's like a soap opera tragedy waiting to happen!
Okay I have to give you props for noticing that I want back and looked exactly were you said and bam there he is.
My real question is where is Cell I want to see his reaction to all of this.
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Okay Goten needs to be insanely powerfully I need my Goten ZENKAI!!! He should be broken after fighting nappa which reminds me where is Dabura not majined I cant wait to see it.
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CrystalMV was saying:
Static was saying: Goku just kind of assumed he turned out the way he did because of Freeza after his dying speech.
Nobody demanded Vegeta answer for his crimes because he died and they saw it happen, it's the same exact mindset most DB fans have about death. They died, that's consequence enough even if they come back.
Dragon Ball is too light-hearted to kill off anyone who isn't completely evil for real, so ya know...that doesn't make it good that it happens, but this is where it comes from.
Whatever that is, I consider suffering from guilt as no less real "punishment" than suffering from getting beaten up for reasons unrelated to the crime. The problem that people have with it is that guilt can be faked. That doesn't mean Bra's guilt is faked.
Gogeta Blue was saying: You see Bra has done something that is worse she blew up a solar system killed probably billions of people we don't even know about so saying Bra never did anything worse than Vegeta until now is just blatant lying. Also unlike Vegeta she was never punished not once even when she doomed a solar system she still had what I would call a very light punishment. But she kills both Gohans both of the piccolos and Slaughters Cell no repercussions
Blowing up a solar system wasn't her fault. The actual decision that she consciously did that led to those deaths was choosing to participate in the mission. All that she could reasonably foresee was that some deaths would occur. That's it. If choosing to participate in the mission makes her as bad as Vegeta or worse, then everyone else that took part is too.
Besides, she cleaned up after herself. She killed people by accident and she revived them afterwards. Vegeta killed people because he meant to, because he wanted them dead.
Super Gojita 3 was saying: But is bra worse? I'd say vegeta at his worst was worse, but bra is worse than cell arc vegeta. I feel this is a fair comprimise and while vegeta wasn't properly punished, that doesn't mean bra should be let off the hook.
Even whether Bra is worse than Cell arc Vegeta, is arguable. Yes, 12 year-old Bra didn't feel bad for Goten's death, while Vegeta got pissed at Cell for killing Trunks. But during the fight against #18, Vegeta fired a ki blast with no consideration for the truck driver behind #18, and killed him. Bra that we know in this tournament, would never do anything like that in her right mind, and I doubt whether 12 year-old Bra would have done it either. What is a worse thing to do? Not feeling bad about the death of your sibling that you had no control over anyway? Or shooting in the direction of the enemy while being fully aware that innocents will be killed? I'd say Vegeta did worse.
I wonder how Bra would have reacted if Goten got killed by those enemies, because there's a difference between getting killed accidentally, by friendly fire, and getting killed by someone who wants you dead. Chances are, Bra would have gotten pissed at them like Vegeta got pissed at Cell.
Nobody demanded Vegeta answer for his crimes because he died and they saw it happen, it's the same exact mindset most DB fans have about death. They died, that's consequence enough even if they come back.
Dragon Ball is too light-hearted to kill off anyone who isn't completely evil for real, so ya know...that doesn't make it good that it happens, but this is where it comes from.
Whatever that is, I consider suffering from guilt as no less real "punishment" than suffering from getting beaten up for reasons unrelated to the crime. The problem that people have with it is that guilt can be faked. That doesn't mean Bra's guilt is faked.
Gogeta Blue was saying: You see Bra has done something that is worse she blew up a solar system killed probably billions of people we don't even know about so saying Bra never did anything worse than Vegeta until now is just blatant lying. Also unlike Vegeta she was never punished not once even when she doomed a solar system she still had what I would call a very light punishment. But she kills both Gohans both of the piccolos and Slaughters Cell no repercussions
Blowing up a solar system wasn't her fault. The actual decision that she consciously did that led to those deaths was choosing to participate in the mission. All that she could reasonably foresee was that some deaths would occur. That's it. If choosing to participate in the mission makes her as bad as Vegeta or worse, then everyone else that took part is too.
Besides, she cleaned up after herself. She killed people by accident and she revived them afterwards. Vegeta killed people because he meant to, because he wanted them dead.
Super Gojita 3 was saying: But is bra worse? I'd say vegeta at his worst was worse, but bra is worse than cell arc vegeta. I feel this is a fair comprimise and while vegeta wasn't properly punished, that doesn't mean bra should be let off the hook.
Even whether Bra is worse than Cell arc Vegeta, is arguable. Yes, 12 year-old Bra didn't feel bad for Goten's death, while Vegeta got pissed at Cell for killing Trunks. But during the fight against #18, Vegeta fired a ki blast with no consideration for the truck driver behind #18, and killed him. Bra that we know in this tournament, would never do anything like that in her right mind, and I doubt whether 12 year-old Bra would have done it either. What is a worse thing to do? Not feeling bad about the death of your sibling that you had no control over anyway? Or shooting in the direction of the enemy while being fully aware that innocents will be killed? I'd say Vegeta did worse.
I wonder how Bra would have reacted if Goten got killed by those enemies, because there's a difference between getting killed accidentally, by friendly fire, and getting killed by someone who wants you dead. Chances are, Bra would have gotten pissed at them like Vegeta got pissed at Cell.
But the problem with this is with your second statement that people dying is part of the mission.
Vegeta wasn't trying to kill the truck driver but he got caught in the crossfire. He was aiming for 18 not the truck driver and it was part of the mission that innocents might die.
But we don't see Cell saga Vegeta even when cell pressed the Goku button does he lose his cool when he is powered up. I understand Bra ha a problem controlling her power but you have to accept some type of punishment because you are the one committing the acts no matter if you are consciously or unconsciously doing them. 1 Replie(s)
CrystalMV was saying:
MagnusGallant was saying: Vegeta didn't aid or assist in the murdering of the Z Warriors, it was all Nappa, and a Saibamen (Which were planted by Nappa), Vegeta even gave Piccolo some extra hours to live when he decided to stop Nappa until Goku arrives, and even though he didn't land a blow on no one besides Goku, he was, quoting: "Destroyed, all by a low level warrior, his halfbreed son, a midget and a obese man with a sword".
Vegeta was in charge. He had them kill the Z Warriors.
MagnusGallant was saying: About the rest, the funny thing about Vegeta is that every bad action he does is rewarded with an huge humiliation.
Vegeta decides to destroy a Village, as a direct consequence of this Frieza sends Zarbon after Vegeta and also calls the Gintu force, Zarbon beats the crap out of Vegeta and so does Recoome.
Vegeta decides to go after the Dragon Balls, leaving Goku alone to fight Ginyu and Jeice on his own, thanks to that Goku is healing while Vegeta is getting his ass whopped by Frieza, and then killed by this.
Vegeta thinks it's a good idea to hunt the androids and put in risk/kills some civilians while facing c18, his arms are wrecked because of that.
Vegeta wants a big challenge and decides that helping Cell achieve his perfect form is the way to go, thanks to that his spine is crushed.
Vegeta feels like being evil again and becomes a Majin, kills a bunch of spectators and helps with Buu resurrection, Buu brutally kick his ass, not once but twice, making him pay in blood for the foolishness of his mistakes.
Anyone who says that Vegeta was "let off scott free" after his bad behavior didn't watch the show or read the manga, the life of Vegeta is literally paying in punishments and injures for his bad behavior.
Here Bra humiliated everyone while being a Majin and when Vegetto came to give her some of the blows that she delivered to the rest he was stopped, if the scenario played out differently, with the hero team barely being able to stop Bra on her tracks, but somehow managing to do so no one would be asking for a punishment.
Vegeta WAS let off scott free. When Freeza, Cell and others kicked his ass, they were doing it for their own pleasure, not justice. They weren't punishing Vegeta for his crimes. If anything, Vegeta wasn't paying the debt, he was paying interest for his refusal to change. Meaning he committed crimes without remorse, never received any actual punishment, instead he was given lots and lots of time to change his ways, so eventually he made a decision to pay for his crimes by sacrificing himself in an attemt to destroy Buu.
Until now, Bra never did anything nearly as bad as what Vegeta did. Now that she was taken over by Babidi and killed innocent people, she's horrified by what she's done. Totally unlike Vegeta, yet people demand that she gets punished immediately, because apparently nothing else shall happen until the justice is restored.
Vegeta was in charge. He had them kill the Z Warriors.
MagnusGallant was saying: About the rest, the funny thing about Vegeta is that every bad action he does is rewarded with an huge humiliation.
Vegeta decides to destroy a Village, as a direct consequence of this Frieza sends Zarbon after Vegeta and also calls the Gintu force, Zarbon beats the crap out of Vegeta and so does Recoome.
Vegeta decides to go after the Dragon Balls, leaving Goku alone to fight Ginyu and Jeice on his own, thanks to that Goku is healing while Vegeta is getting his ass whopped by Frieza, and then killed by this.
Vegeta thinks it's a good idea to hunt the androids and put in risk/kills some civilians while facing c18, his arms are wrecked because of that.
Vegeta wants a big challenge and decides that helping Cell achieve his perfect form is the way to go, thanks to that his spine is crushed.
Vegeta feels like being evil again and becomes a Majin, kills a bunch of spectators and helps with Buu resurrection, Buu brutally kick his ass, not once but twice, making him pay in blood for the foolishness of his mistakes.
Anyone who says that Vegeta was "let off scott free" after his bad behavior didn't watch the show or read the manga, the life of Vegeta is literally paying in punishments and injures for his bad behavior.
Here Bra humiliated everyone while being a Majin and when Vegetto came to give her some of the blows that she delivered to the rest he was stopped, if the scenario played out differently, with the hero team barely being able to stop Bra on her tracks, but somehow managing to do so no one would be asking for a punishment.
Vegeta WAS let off scott free. When Freeza, Cell and others kicked his ass, they were doing it for their own pleasure, not justice. They weren't punishing Vegeta for his crimes. If anything, Vegeta wasn't paying the debt, he was paying interest for his refusal to change. Meaning he committed crimes without remorse, never received any actual punishment, instead he was given lots and lots of time to change his ways, so eventually he made a decision to pay for his crimes by sacrificing himself in an attemt to destroy Buu.
Until now, Bra never did anything nearly as bad as what Vegeta did. Now that she was taken over by Babidi and killed innocent people, she's horrified by what she's done. Totally unlike Vegeta, yet people demand that she gets punished immediately, because apparently nothing else shall happen until the justice is restored.
You see Bra has done something that is worse she blew up a solar system killed probably billions of people we don't even know about so saying Bra never did anything worse than Vegeta until now is just blatant lying. Also unlike Vegeta she was never punished not once even when she doomed a solar system she still had what I would call a very light punishment. But she kills both Gohans both of the piccolos and Slaughters Cell no repercussions
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Krillin was saying:
Son Bra was saying: Salagir, you guys do understand tone, correct? Dragon Ball has always been a gag series, so there is certainly supposed to be humour in it. However, I believe Oak's word's echo here.
There's a time and a place for everything. You all go from more or less finalising your butchering of Vegetto as a character and a concept by having him attempt filicide in front of his family, friend, and an assortment of complete strangers, then completely lambasting him by speaking directly to the audience through your characters about flaws you all created for him that only serve to undermine him as a character. And this is after you just finished, using one Bra to highlight the flaws of the other Bra by, once again, just taking audience critiques about the character and surgically inserting them into your story. And this is from a Bra fan, my username isn't "Son Bra" for no reason (and I find it hilarious that it wasn't taken, it either goes to show the terrible reception of the character or perhaps this website doesn't care who uses what name?). It feels like Salagir would rather this have been a manga central to Bra, and I don't even think that would have been a bad thing, but he knew he needed the Multiverse angle to draw people in before he focused entirely on his pet character. Which, again, not necessarily bad, but upfront honesty would have been nice about, oh...ten years or so ago.
This manga hooked me initially on the idea of a permanent Vegetto. He is my favourite fusion (outside of Kefla, as Salagir continues to refuse to acknowledge DBS, despite clearly taking inspirations from it later) and I was interested to see what they'd do with him. Oh and they gave him a daughter, an older Bra who is amazingly strong and badass, that sounds cool too, how amazing this fan manga is going to be.
I fell in love with this comic so many years ago due to Vegetto, and in extension, his story, which cannot be told without Bra, so with her too. A father trying his best to adjust to a situation birthed out of necessity. Later on, taking the mantle of Universe's Defender. A role of heroism unparalleled in all the universes combined and dealing with the fatherly affections he holds for his daughter and the duty he hails to as the Universe's Defender. Bra, a girl trying her best to control herself in a universe so fragile that it can crumble under her hands if she squishes hard enough, and not only that, her father is the strongest in the universe, with the heaviest burden too, which in time, she must uphold as well. Her struggles make her flawed (in my mind, the perfect type of setup for an overpowered character, to grow and overcome.). So my expectations were always how this duo would ultimately overcome their struggles and grow as characters.
Now in the present, I just look at all the butchered fan-favorite series as of late, and cannot fathom how there are still people who take up after them. for example, I don't understand the deal with authors and their need to shoot down fan-favorite characters to shoe in others. You didn't need to butcher Vegetto's character (a character of whom you rode on the back of to promote your comic). Unlike most trash from Hollywood, Bra was finely written with issues that could be rectified through character growth... but instead of that, instead of respecting Vegetto as both a character and a father... we get this.
This for me has been quite the wild ride, my biggest expectation from the beginning of the Majin Bra arc was how she would break the mind control, to my let down, it was by being called weak/passive. Instead of the realization of what she has done. "Fine", I thought, "At the very least she could regret things later on" but to my surprise, I was mind blown by the amounts of overprotectiveness the author felt for Bra to the point that she cant even be chastised. I literally couldn't believe what I was reading. It took me several days to progress what I just read, and in the end, I saw it. It was the author butchering Vegetto's character to have him forcefully replaced by Bra. How many years of this father and daughter dynamic flushed down the toilet to shoehorn this nonsense? Sigh
Thank kami however for @Argelios edit. I don't think I could've continued past page 1830 without it, and ironically, it had everything I ever wanted for both Vegetto and Bra all illustrated within 3 pages, a functional father and daughter relationship, and the setup to pass the reins of responsibility to Bra after she proves herself to Universe 19. This is the difference that makes a world of difference, instead of shoehorning Bra to replace Vegetto, you give her the opportunity to earn that spot herself, and in turn, the respect of the viewers. Not through pity but through heroism.
There's a time and a place for everything. You all go from more or less finalising your butchering of Vegetto as a character and a concept by having him attempt filicide in front of his family, friend, and an assortment of complete strangers, then completely lambasting him by speaking directly to the audience through your characters about flaws you all created for him that only serve to undermine him as a character. And this is after you just finished, using one Bra to highlight the flaws of the other Bra by, once again, just taking audience critiques about the character and surgically inserting them into your story. And this is from a Bra fan, my username isn't "Son Bra" for no reason (and I find it hilarious that it wasn't taken, it either goes to show the terrible reception of the character or perhaps this website doesn't care who uses what name?). It feels like Salagir would rather this have been a manga central to Bra, and I don't even think that would have been a bad thing, but he knew he needed the Multiverse angle to draw people in before he focused entirely on his pet character. Which, again, not necessarily bad, but upfront honesty would have been nice about, oh...ten years or so ago.
This manga hooked me initially on the idea of a permanent Vegetto. He is my favourite fusion (outside of Kefla, as Salagir continues to refuse to acknowledge DBS, despite clearly taking inspirations from it later) and I was interested to see what they'd do with him. Oh and they gave him a daughter, an older Bra who is amazingly strong and badass, that sounds cool too, how amazing this fan manga is going to be.
I fell in love with this comic so many years ago due to Vegetto, and in extension, his story, which cannot be told without Bra, so with her too. A father trying his best to adjust to a situation birthed out of necessity. Later on, taking the mantle of Universe's Defender. A role of heroism unparalleled in all the universes combined and dealing with the fatherly affections he holds for his daughter and the duty he hails to as the Universe's Defender. Bra, a girl trying her best to control herself in a universe so fragile that it can crumble under her hands if she squishes hard enough, and not only that, her father is the strongest in the universe, with the heaviest burden too, which in time, she must uphold as well. Her struggles make her flawed (in my mind, the perfect type of setup for an overpowered character, to grow and overcome.). So my expectations were always how this duo would ultimately overcome their struggles and grow as characters.
Now in the present, I just look at all the butchered fan-favorite series as of late, and cannot fathom how there are still people who take up after them. for example, I don't understand the deal with authors and their need to shoot down fan-favorite characters to shoe in others. You didn't need to butcher Vegetto's character (a character of whom you rode on the back of to promote your comic). Unlike most trash from Hollywood, Bra was finely written with issues that could be rectified through character growth... but instead of that, instead of respecting Vegetto as both a character and a father... we get this.
This for me has been quite the wild ride, my biggest expectation from the beginning of the Majin Bra arc was how she would break the mind control, to my let down, it was by being called weak/passive. Instead of the realization of what she has done. "Fine", I thought, "At the very least she could regret things later on" but to my surprise, I was mind blown by the amounts of overprotectiveness the author felt for Bra to the point that she cant even be chastised. I literally couldn't believe what I was reading. It took me several days to progress what I just read, and in the end, I saw it. It was the author butchering Vegetto's character to have him forcefully replaced by Bra. How many years of this father and daughter dynamic flushed down the toilet to shoehorn this nonsense? Sigh
Thank kami however for @Argelios edit. I don't think I could've continued past page 1830 without it, and ironically, it had everything I ever wanted for both Vegetto and Bra all illustrated within 3 pages, a functional father and daughter relationship, and the setup to pass the reins of responsibility to Bra after she proves herself to Universe 19. This is the difference that makes a world of difference, instead of shoehorning Bra to replace Vegetto, you give her the opportunity to earn that spot herself, and in turn, the respect of the viewers. Not through pity but through heroism.
This is the type of comments that make me come here to this section in the first place pepole who truly have good intentions and feelings for this Fan manga.
Okay so this is a little off topic right now. I've been thinking about how Vegeta could have a power that is able to surpass super saiyan 3 cause he seemed pretty sure he could beat Goku. Now I might get some hate for this but I think he might have achieved super saiyan God. Using the strategy that they have been using to basically sort out the DBZ movies I am going on a limb here and say they might do what they did with DBZ Broly and basically follow the concept but change a few things. Now you might say ohh that's from Super they said the won't be doing anything from Super. But the name of the movie is Dragon ball Z : Battle of Gods technically it is still a Dragon ball Z Movie. But take this with a grain of salt I have just been thinking about this and wondered what other people have thought what power Vegeta has to surpass super saiyan 3. I have thought about super saiyan 4 but that was exclusievly to Dragon ball GT. With this in mind what other power level can you think of besides Ultimate that is stronger than super saiyan 3. I would have done super saiyan Blue but thats Frieza and we haven't seen any of our Universe 18 comrades interact with Beerus and Whis so that's off the Table. So that's just my opinion.
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DB Multiverse page 1832
Let me make sure I have this straight my so Bra can basically kill her brother or half brother whatever and get off scot free no punishment Zen Buu is basically free Dragon balls and Vegettos pride is in the garbage can right now just making sure I have the facts
DB Multiverse page 1831