@Y.O.U.R
Weeeeeeell... if he was smart enough to wear eye protection, he'd be swell.
2011-07-31 14:47:20
Mystic Tien Shinhan
I dont care who wins at this point i just wanna see this legendary WTF page RAGE slipt up about wink wink.
2011-07-31 15:12:05
Y.O.U.R.
@Saiga >Weeeeeeell... if he was smart enough to wear eye protection, he'd be swell.
Though if there is a material that's hard enough so that Bardock can't break it, why isn't raditz wearing an armor made of that stuff? XD
2011-07-31 15:25:17
Hika
Maybe Raditz can only go SSJ while Oozaru. >o>
2011-07-31 15:34:19
Mr. Michaels
Doesn't look like Baadack has a tail except for a frame on page 413...
Is he supposed to have a tail?
2011-07-31 15:45:21
SSJDante
All depends on their power levels. SSJ is a X50 PL multiplier and Ozzaru is a X10. Raditz will have to be a lot stronger than Bardock to win or else he'll probably have his eyes blown out or his tail cut off.
2011-07-31 15:45:22
dude abides
Nate:
Dragon Ball was never an adult show. It's pretty much the ur-example of shonen- meaning, for teenage boys and younger. Japan just has different standards for what is acceptable for kids than the United States and Europe.
2011-07-31 15:46:55
Stouty22
@Roketto@Gogetto@Majestic Space Duck:CLICK
now then off to the store to get the pic developed LOL.
2011-07-31 16:05:17
sherlock holmes
the dead zone is cannon....99%of the movie fits in the timeline....Gohan must be 4,Goku and Piccolo are stil enemies and Radditz invades 1 year AFTER the movie....and we see Garlic jr again after Frieza....also in cell games we see a scene from the garlic jr saga and in buu saga piccolo said the lookoutwas destroyed...AGAIN!?
2011-07-31 16:31:29
my name is you
i wana be in the pic to evean thou im new
2011-07-31 16:32:11
thenamelessone
I've heard of Raichi and the game from which he came, but I'm not very familiar with his back store. How Bardock is involved in his story is completly unknown to me. ^_^;;
2011-07-31 16:42:15
DBZGTKOSDH
@sherlock holmes >the dead zone is cannon....99%of the movie fits in the timeline
Exactly
2011-07-31 17:21:43
Gogetto
@Stouty22
Lemme know how that turns out =D
2011-07-31 17:52:08
Docter Killjoy
@sherlock holmes
you do realise that garlic jr and his whole shitty saga is anime only. he does not apear in the manga.
in most of the early movies it's mostly gohan being the big plot hole his age, hair style and tail.
and those other events are again anime only, garlic jr does not exist in the manga. and thats a big improvement.
2011-07-31 17:52:20
mystic coos
@DBZGTKOSDH >Dragon Ball Z GT Kai Online SD Heroes. It's the first letters from each Dragon Ball series.
Oh very cool, very cool. I cant wait for dragonball online to come here :(.
@scar-faced bandit >Fat Buu was ugly and annoying and he's still alive! I never said I cared about power levels I wish they were never used because all they do is cause confusion.
i wish that db evolution was never made because it cause confusion lol. Just ignore the stuff u dont like.
@ mystic coos- >No, I don't. I make comments with the thought that I'm right, but that's what everyone does. I accept if I'm wrong, and only get mad when I'm not wrong but people like to say I am anyway. I also have not called anyone "stupid" since that became against the rules, and "confused" is not an insult, let alone a "name".
The rule says not to argue endlessly, suggesting that sometimes it's better to agree to disagree. It doesn't say you can't have a long argument, nor that it should end with agreeing to disagree. You know, the way you're acting right now? Would you say you're pretending to be high and mighty? I'm not in anyway doing that, so you can stop imagining that I am.
i'm not being high and mighty but u say i'm only "imagining" u are. So i am delusional for pointing out the truth to u? lol don't make me laugh. I know what the rules say thank u for clariying to me because i am so inferior and cant read them myself. U have god complex because anyone who dare not agree with u will be ur angry. Later "king geno" i dont have time for a long discussion sorry.
2011-07-31 18:08:44
Rage
Guys stop being dicks to each other, also stop backseat modding. If a mod sees something inappropiate or something against the rule, the comment disappears.
2011-07-31 18:12:50
shifobrains
The main factor in determining who won a specific fight was Akira Toriyama himself. Should X be beaten/killed by Y at this time? Yes or no? Powerlevels were only used as a story element, to show how much more powerful the next big villain was, until he no longer needed them. I'd bet money that Toriyama himself couldn't give a rat's ass about what specific PL each of his characters were at each time. All that mattered was who won whichever battle was happening at the time.
Discussions and arguments about powerlevels are useless because even if the Vegeta or Frieza or whoever had a powerlevel a million times larger than everybody else, and Akira didn't want that character to win the fight, he/she wouldn't win. It's as simple as that.
2011-07-31 18:15:49
Rague
Geno vs. Scar-Faced Bandit vs Bagman251 - epic debate of the century, and probably a driving reason to shut down the commenting system for good. XD
>mysticcoos
What I don't get is how a Japanese anime makes its way to SOUTH KOREA of all places and then the first excitedly big OFFICIAL continuation of said series gets rooted in South Korea. Not to be unfair to Koreans, but come on, imagine how much buisness they're losing due to a lack of Japanese or even American subscription? How did Toriyama sign off the game to not even be fully released in Japan? And hell, despite what any purist may think of the Americanization, DBZ has a LARGE American fanbase. I could ask almost anyone in my school alone if they remembered DBZ and even the ditziest, trendiest, hipster (whatever that means) would say "Oh yeah, I watched that as a kid". Now why don't you guys do the same - you workplace, your school, your college; ask anybody and TRY to find somebody (more than 10 people) who don't have some knowledge of DBZ's existence.
It's so lame that it's taking them so long to bring the game out here.
2011-07-31 18:21:20
Sara
My guess is Bardock managed to rally the Saiyans and they collectively managed to overpower Frieza, probably firing all together at his deathball/supernova attack.
2011-07-31 19:10:41
mystic coos
edit:
lol it should've been @geno not @mysticcoos. I copyied and pasted from his comment and forgot to change the name.
@rague
dbo was released in south korea 1st? I thought it was japan wow that is weird.
@rage
sorry. I was trying to make sure ppl respect the rules. Salagir put much work into this website its not nice for ppl to make up thier own rules. but thank u for clarfying.
2011-07-31 19:34:12
Shiro-X
Hi my american (english) fan its nice that you appriciate DBM I thought that DBM was more popular in France than elsewhere
but they say there are people , and I offer a little homage to Bardock and his fight with the ost to stick to the situation
How old is Bardock if Goku and Vegeta are around their 60s and we saw King Vegeta (Vegeta's father) as a really old man??
2011-07-31 19:44:47
SSJ BARDOCK
IMO I think if Salagir wanted to put characters from the movies that are clearly not canon he could do......The way I look at the movies are that they are an alternative universe where things happened slightly differently (like the multiverse funny enough) I mean the Dead zone movie can fit anywhere (all they have to do is change what is said in the dub) now is where we stray, Raditz comes to earth is defeated and Vegeta and Nappa come to Earth. Goku is wished back but in this Universe they dont waste anytime and wish Goku back life straight away, Goku does he training and leaves as soon as he's finished. Goku returns to Earth in time to face the saiyans as soon as they arrive. Due to Goku being there he defeats both Nappa and Vegeta, because Goku is there from the beginning nobody dies and Vegeta leaves.
Everybody heals, Vegeta leaves for Namek. Now the worlds strongest movie takes place (and because they wished Goku back early there is no inconsistency on the Dragon balls being used again). Meanwhile on Namek Vegeta has killed Dodoria and Zarbon (due to the Earthlings not being there he may have convinced Guru that it was better for him to have the Dragon ball then Frieza, plus Guru would know that Vegeta wont know how to summon porunga) and has collected all 7 Dragon balls. He realizes that 1. he cant use them and 2. The Ginyu Force are coming, knowing that he does not stand a chance against the Ginyu Force he decides to leave Namek with the Dragon balls prompting the Ginyu Force to chase him and then Frieza. A year passes and the Tree of Might movie takes place, then another year passes and the Lord Slug movie takes place. During these two years Vegeta has been hoping from planet to planet defending himself from the Ginyu Force slowly getting stronger and stronger from each battle until he was powerful enough to destroy the Ginyu Force, during this time Guru has died and the Dragon balls have turned to stone. With Frieza heavily on his case and knowing that immortality is he's only means to defeat him Vegeta returns to Earth, he reaches Earth but on seeing just how powerful Goku and the others have become he deduces that Goku must have become a Super Saiyan and decides to warn Goku of Frieza and they form a temporary alliance. The Z fighters now take on Frieza, Goku is far more powerful then he was in the normal universe due to the battles and training he has done in this extended period but is still no match for Frieza in his final form. Frieza go's on to kill Vegeta and Krillin prompting Goku to transform into a Super Saiyan finishing Frieza once and for all. They use the Dragon balls to wish everyone back to life.
Now Coolers Revenge takes place and because Goku never spent a year travelling in space he 1. hasn't mastered Super Saiyan transformation 2. Does not know instant transmission. He defeats Cooler and the Z fighters on listening to Vegeta and the destruction that was caused on Namek decide that its there duty to help them. They arrive on Namek to find only one survivor Nail, turns out the Frieza and Coolers father came to Namek to try to find out where Frieza was killed Dende and tortured Nail into telling him what happened. Nail fuses with Piccolo so that he can live on. Meanwhile Cold is traversing every planet that he's sons ship was reported to have landed on, Goku wanting to fight Cold arrives on planet yardrat where Nail said the Ginyu Force chased Vegeta too he learns the instant transmission technique and also learns that Cold is heading for Earth the Z fighters rush to Earth but on arriving find only the remains of Cold and his men and a mysterious youth (who turns out to be Trunks) Trunks warns of killer Androids who will arrive in 2 years time and that Goku will suffer from a heart virus in 1 year and gives him the medicine. They wish for the Namekians to be restored to live and Kami decides to take a young Namekian named Dende under his wing.
The Z fighters who are already superior to there normal universe selves train for the 2 years during this time the Cooler returns movie takes place. Everything takes place as per normal, Goku suffers from the heart virus, Gero underestimates the powers of a Super Saiyan and 19 is crushed by Vegeta, 17 and 18 are released. Goku recovers from his heart virus and seeing that the Androids aren't the same as the one from Trunks timeline (i.e. insane) decides to help his wife with some shopping and suggest to everyone to have a small break to recuperate and not to worry. Trunks does not understand why Goku is not worried but gets his sword fixed by Bulma and bang the Android 13 movie takes place. After the battle with the Androids Goku tells Trunks and Vegeta about the hyperbolic time chamber and Piccolo realizing the threat these Androids pose decides to fuse with Kami leaving Dende as the guardian of Earth. Everything takes place as per normal and then during the 10 days of peace the Broly movie and the Hatchiyak movie takes place. Cell is defeated by Gohan and everything returns to peace then Bojack arrives and is defeated. Broly second coming takes place whilst the Z fighters are preparing for the tournament with Vegeta launching into space for more asteroid training. Then when the Z fighter learn of Majin Buu they leave the tournament except for 18, Krillin, Goten and Trunks who go on to fight Bio Broly. Whilst Gohan is mastering the use of the Z sword Goku learns of another tournament in other world and decides to participate, then the Janemba movie happens. Then after Buu the wrath of the Dragon movie takes place and bob your uncle theirs my idea for the movie universe!!! Thank you and goodnight! Oh and check out my pics (first time i've drawn in like 4 years) http://tonybscott.deviantart.com#
2011-07-31 20:00:39
Random Person
Interesting Raditz. I don't think it will beat Bardock, but it definitely makes you seem more less of a Raditz than you are, still you are a Raditz. I actually thought "Wait, he's still not gonna win." but I don't consider Raditz weak because he decided to transform instead of give up. He's still giving it his all. But of course... he's a Raditz.
2011-07-31 20:56:50
Child0fTheMind
@Scar-faced Bandit
Well, in Surpreme Kais flash back episode, it showed kid Buu destroying whole galaxies... It was an anime episode, and I don't think it was in the manga, however... The DBM novel has a lot that doesn't appear in the DBM manga and yet people keep pointing to it as canon... So I don't see where the Canon/non-Canon line is being drawn...
Things in DBZ canon causes inconsistencies just as much as filler, but where people go out of their way to explain those inconsistencies, they just label filler as non-canon... Or they label things like the Daizenshuu as being wrong... They are just accepting the explanations they like, and labeling everything else as non-canon...
2011-08-01 02:18:06
Raiken
Considering Radtiz's said he was way above Ginyu's squad. And not Captain Ginyu himself. I'm guessing his power level is somewhere in between. 80'000-90-000.
Which would put his Oozaru power level at 800'000-900'000
Unless Oozaru x multiplier is in fact not 10x and that was just an Anime thing. Maybe 5x or something.
2011-08-01 15:21:30
Alexis
What everyone wants to see, even (specially) Salagir, but sadly will not see. Sorry for the poor quality, don't have the patience for a more sophisticated work.
2011-08-02 21:09:00
Ouroboros
@Alexis
Not really Raditz is to cool for super sayians
2011-08-03 17:06:20
Mymick
Again, terrible writing.
2011-08-04 21:15:20
dragonballfans
how did raditz control himself in oozaru form? isnt vegeta the only one able to control himself in that form? well maybe this is what raditz have learned over the years.
2011-08-25 04:51:00
Ledgic
Great Ape without a tail?
2011-09-08 05:49:00
Awesome Omega
That is freakin awesome. Now Raditz is some sorta genius?
There's a manga that goes into Baddack after he was blasted away by Freiza and he turns super sayian there. Could that be related to this? :O
2012-03-24 21:44:56
robocop
Awsome bardock should live in universe 18
2014-01-23 21:06:29
nasty nappa
Looks like raditz has a little hope still.
2015-10-18 03:49:49
Anonymous
Possible small mistake in this page: If I remember DBZ Kai correctly, Vegeta said that it is a saiyan's tail which needs to absorb the blutz waves, not his eyes.
2017-06-18 22:46:06
Jubjub
Vegeta: Kakorroto, your brother was an average warrior, but a BRILLIANT scientist!
2017-10-13 08:49:51
Morango
Awesome, go Oozaru, Raditz.
2018-04-11 21:56:06
Sam
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Saiga
Weeeeeeell... if he was smart enough to wear eye protection, he'd be swell.
Mystic Tien Shinhan
Y.O.U.R.
>Weeeeeeell... if he was smart enough to wear eye protection, he'd be swell.
Though if there is a material that's hard enough so that Bardock can't break it, why isn't raditz wearing an armor made of that stuff? XD
Hika
Mr. Michaels
Is he supposed to have a tail?
SSJDante
dude abides
Dragon Ball was never an adult show. It's pretty much the ur-example of shonen- meaning, for teenage boys and younger. Japan just has different standards for what is acceptable for kids than the United States and Europe.
Stouty22
now then off to the store to get the pic developed LOL.
sherlock holmes
my name is you
thenamelessone
DBZGTKOSDH
>the dead zone is cannon....99%of the movie fits in the timeline
Exactly
Gogetto
Lemme know how that turns out =D
Docter Killjoy
you do realise that garlic jr and his whole shitty saga is anime only. he does not apear in the manga.
in most of the early movies it's mostly gohan being the big plot hole his age, hair style and tail.
and those other events are again anime only, garlic jr does not exist in the manga. and thats a big improvement.
mystic coos
>Dragon Ball Z GT Kai Online SD Heroes. It's the first letters from each Dragon Ball series.
Oh very cool, very cool. I cant wait for dragonball online to come here :(.
@scar-faced bandit
>Fat Buu was ugly and annoying and he's still alive! I never said I cared about power levels I wish they were never used because all they do is cause confusion.
i wish that db evolution was never made because it cause confusion lol. Just ignore the stuff u dont like.
@ mystic coos-
>No, I don't. I make comments with the thought that I'm right, but that's what everyone does. I accept if I'm wrong, and only get mad when I'm not wrong but people like to say I am anyway. I also have not called anyone "stupid" since that became against the rules, and "confused" is not an insult, let alone a "name".
The rule says not to argue endlessly, suggesting that sometimes it's better to agree to disagree. It doesn't say you can't have a long argument, nor that it should end with agreeing to disagree. You know, the way you're acting right now? Would you say you're pretending to be high and mighty? I'm not in anyway doing that, so you can stop imagining that I am.
i'm not being high and mighty but u say i'm only "imagining" u are. So i am delusional for pointing out the truth to u? lol don't make me laugh. I know what the rules say thank u for clariying to me because i am so inferior and cant read them myself. U have god complex because anyone who dare not agree with u will be ur angry. Later "king geno" i dont have time for a long discussion sorry.
Rage
shifobrains
Discussions and arguments about powerlevels are useless because even if the Vegeta or Frieza or whoever had a powerlevel a million times larger than everybody else, and Akira didn't want that character to win the fight, he/she wouldn't win. It's as simple as that.
Rague
>mysticcoos
What I don't get is how a Japanese anime makes its way to SOUTH KOREA of all places and then the first excitedly big OFFICIAL continuation of said series gets rooted in South Korea. Not to be unfair to Koreans, but come on, imagine how much buisness they're losing due to a lack of Japanese or even American subscription? How did Toriyama sign off the game to not even be fully released in Japan? And hell, despite what any purist may think of the Americanization, DBZ has a LARGE American fanbase. I could ask almost anyone in my school alone if they remembered DBZ and even the ditziest, trendiest, hipster (whatever that means) would say "Oh yeah, I watched that as a kid". Now why don't you guys do the same - you workplace, your school, your college; ask anybody and TRY to find somebody (more than 10 people) who don't have some knowledge of DBZ's existence.
It's so lame that it's taking them so long to bring the game out here.
Sara
mystic coos
lol it should've been @geno not @mysticcoos. I copyied and pasted from his comment and forgot to change the name.
@rague
dbo was released in south korea 1st? I thought it was japan wow that is weird.
@rage
sorry. I was trying to make sure ppl respect the rules. Salagir put much work into this website its not nice for ppl to make up thier own rules. but thank u for clarfying.
Shiro-X
but they say there are people , and I offer a little homage to Bardock and his fight with the ost to stick to the situation
bardock vs the soldat of furiza and furiza
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xXd4qHlfUmg
solid state scouter
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lm77VCkf_do
enjoy DBM and thanks for your support :)
Zerch
SSJ BARDOCK
Everybody heals, Vegeta leaves for Namek. Now the worlds strongest movie takes place (and because they wished Goku back early there is no inconsistency on the Dragon balls being used again). Meanwhile on Namek Vegeta has killed Dodoria and Zarbon (due to the Earthlings not being there he may have convinced Guru that it was better for him to have the Dragon ball then Frieza, plus Guru would know that Vegeta wont know how to summon porunga) and has collected all 7 Dragon balls. He realizes that 1. he cant use them and 2. The Ginyu Force are coming, knowing that he does not stand a chance against the Ginyu Force he decides to leave Namek with the Dragon balls prompting the Ginyu Force to chase him and then Frieza. A year passes and the Tree of Might movie takes place, then another year passes and the Lord Slug movie takes place. During these two years Vegeta has been hoping from planet to planet defending himself from the Ginyu Force slowly getting stronger and stronger from each battle until he was powerful enough to destroy the Ginyu Force, during this time Guru has died and the Dragon balls have turned to stone. With Frieza heavily on his case and knowing that immortality is he's only means to defeat him Vegeta returns to Earth, he reaches Earth but on seeing just how powerful Goku and the others have become he deduces that Goku must have become a Super Saiyan and decides to warn Goku of Frieza and they form a temporary alliance. The Z fighters now take on Frieza, Goku is far more powerful then he was in the normal universe due to the battles and training he has done in this extended period but is still no match for Frieza in his final form. Frieza go's on to kill Vegeta and Krillin prompting Goku to transform into a Super Saiyan finishing Frieza once and for all. They use the Dragon balls to wish everyone back to life.
Now Coolers Revenge takes place and because Goku never spent a year travelling in space he 1. hasn't mastered Super Saiyan transformation 2. Does not know instant transmission. He defeats Cooler and the Z fighters on listening to Vegeta and the destruction that was caused on Namek decide that its there duty to help them. They arrive on Namek to find only one survivor Nail, turns out the Frieza and Coolers father came to Namek to try to find out where Frieza was killed Dende and tortured Nail into telling him what happened. Nail fuses with Piccolo so that he can live on. Meanwhile Cold is traversing every planet that he's sons ship was reported to have landed on, Goku wanting to fight Cold arrives on planet yardrat where Nail said the Ginyu Force chased Vegeta too he learns the instant transmission technique and also learns that Cold is heading for Earth the Z fighters rush to Earth but on arriving find only the remains of Cold and his men and a mysterious youth (who turns out to be Trunks) Trunks warns of killer Androids who will arrive in 2 years time and that Goku will suffer from a heart virus in 1 year and gives him the medicine. They wish for the Namekians to be restored to live and Kami decides to take a young Namekian named Dende under his wing.
The Z fighters who are already superior to there normal universe selves train for the 2 years during this time the Cooler returns movie takes place. Everything takes place as per normal, Goku suffers from the heart virus, Gero underestimates the powers of a Super Saiyan and 19 is crushed by Vegeta, 17 and 18 are released. Goku recovers from his heart virus and seeing that the Androids aren't the same as the one from Trunks timeline (i.e. insane) decides to help his wife with some shopping and suggest to everyone to have a small break to recuperate and not to worry. Trunks does not understand why Goku is not worried but gets his sword fixed by Bulma and bang the Android 13 movie takes place. After the battle with the Androids Goku tells Trunks and Vegeta about the hyperbolic time chamber and Piccolo realizing the threat these Androids pose decides to fuse with Kami leaving Dende as the guardian of Earth. Everything takes place as per normal and then during the 10 days of peace the Broly movie and the Hatchiyak movie takes place. Cell is defeated by Gohan and everything returns to peace then Bojack arrives and is defeated. Broly second coming takes place whilst the Z fighters are preparing for the tournament with Vegeta launching into space for more asteroid training. Then when the Z fighter learn of Majin Buu they leave the tournament except for 18, Krillin, Goten and Trunks who go on to fight Bio Broly. Whilst Gohan is mastering the use of the Z sword Goku learns of another tournament in other world and decides to participate, then the Janemba movie happens. Then after Buu the wrath of the Dragon movie takes place and bob your uncle theirs my idea for the movie universe!!! Thank you and goodnight! Oh and check out my pics (first time i've drawn in like 4 years) http://tonybscott.deviantart.com#
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Well, in Surpreme Kais flash back episode, it showed kid Buu destroying whole galaxies... It was an anime episode, and I don't think it was in the manga, however... The DBM novel has a lot that doesn't appear in the DBM manga and yet people keep pointing to it as canon... So I don't see where the Canon/non-Canon line is being drawn...
Things in DBZ canon causes inconsistencies just as much as filler, but where people go out of their way to explain those inconsistencies, they just label filler as non-canon... Or they label things like the Daizenshuu as being wrong... They are just accepting the explanations they like, and labeling everything else as non-canon...
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Which would put his Oozaru power level at 800'000-900'000
Unless Oozaru x multiplier is in fact not 10x and that was just an Anime thing. Maybe 5x or something.
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